Temperature and the equilibrium constant

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between temperature changes and the equilibrium constant in chemical reactions, specifically focusing on endothermic and exothermic reactions. Participants explore how temperature affects the direction of shifts in equilibrium and the implications for the equilibrium constant (K).

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how temperature changes influence the direction of equilibrium shifts, particularly regarding endothermic and exothermic reactions.
  • It is noted that an increase in temperature for an endothermic reaction is said to favor the forward direction (left to right), while a decrease in temperature for an exothermic reaction is said to favor the reverse direction (right to left).
  • Another participant argues that decreasing temperature in an exothermic reaction should favor the products (shifting right to left), suggesting that heat is treated differently than temperature.
  • There is a discussion about how the equilibrium constant (K) changes with temperature, with one participant asserting that heating an endothermic reaction increases K, while another participant questions the implications of this on the reactant and product concentrations.
  • One participant acknowledges a misunderstanding in their earlier statements regarding the direction of shifts and corrects themselves, confirming that products are favored in an exothermic reaction when temperature is decreased.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of how temperature affects equilibrium shifts and the equilibrium constant, leading to unresolved disagreements about the implications of these changes.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference Le Chatelier's principle but do not fully resolve the implications of temperature changes on equilibrium shifts or the equilibrium constant, leaving some assumptions and definitions ambiguous.

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The equilibrium constant changes with a change in temperature, I am confused as to the directions and why Qc is behaving oppositely of what I think it does

For example, my textbook says a temperature increase favors an endothermic reaction (left to right) and a temperature decrease favors the exothermic direction (from right to left). This is ambiguous to me, I am not sure what they mean by favor, if somone can clarify.

Anyway, here is an endothermic reaction

heat + A ⇔ B + C

If you increase the temperature, the heat is treated as a reactant and it shifts from left to right, that is fine

Exothermic:

A + B ⇔ C + heat
decrease the temperature, shouldn't this shift from left to right, since the heat is treated like a concentration and it is taken away, so to make up for it more is going from left to right, yet the book says right to left.


My other concern is how the equilibrium constant changes with temperature. We had a worksheet and its says heating an endothermic equilibrium system increases K. The answer given is true, and I have 2 thoughts on this.

The first is that if you have an endothermic reaction, heating it up increases the number of the reactant side, so the denominator is bigger and K is lower. However, if you increase the temperature, equilibrium would shift to the right so now the numerator is bigger, and therefore K is bigger. I think the second statement is the correct one, but just want to confirm.

It says cooling an exothermic equilibrium increases K. That mens equilibrium shifts to the right (which contradicts my textbook from above) and the numerator is now bigger, so K is bigger.
 
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Woopydalan said:
Exothermic:

A + B ⇔ C + heat
decrease the temperature, shouldn't this shift from left to right, since the heat is treated like a concentration and it is taken away, so to make up for it more is going from left to right, yet the book says right to left.

No, it should be favoring the products (shifting right to left). Heat is not exactly the same thing as temperature. If temperature is decreased, heat is leaving the system. The system will "maintain" its temperature by reacting to the product side to release heat.

Right ----> Left

Le Chatelier's principle.
 
Maybe we're reading this different, but if its favoring the products, you are saying some of the reactants are going to go to the product side. The reactants are on the left, and the products are on the right. Therefore, reactants (left) to products (right)?

Right -----> Left is backwards, my right hand is on the side where you have written left

Left -----> Right should be how you wrote it, no?
 
Woopydalan said:
Maybe we're reading this different, but if its favoring the products, you are saying some of the reactants are going to go to the product side. The reactants are on the left, and the products are on the right. Therefore, reactants (left) to products (right)?

Right -----> Left is backwards, my right hand is on the side where you have written left

Left -----> Right should be how you wrote it, no?

Hahah I just realized that I did write it incorrectly. I apologize.

Products are definitely favored in an exothermic reaction when temperature is decreased.
 

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