Calculating Tension in Ropes with Multiple Blocks and Friction | Homework Help"

  • Thread starter Thread starter Ogakor
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Homework Tension
AI Thread Summary
The discussion revolves around calculating the tension in ropes connecting blocks A, B, and C, with given weights and friction coefficients. Block C descends at a constant velocity, leading to a debate on whether acceleration can be assumed to be zero. One participant calculates the tension between blocks A and B as 7.75N and the acceleration when the rope is cut as approximately 7.01 m/s². Discrepancies arise as another participant believes the acceleration should be zero due to constant velocity, leading to differing conclusions on the correct formulas and components used in the calculations. The conversation highlights the need for clarity in applying physics principles to solve the problem accurately.
Ogakor
Messages
17
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Block A, B and C are placed as in the figure below and connected in ropes of negligible mass. Both A and B weighs 25N each and the coefficient of kinetic friction between each block and the surface is 0.35. The weight of Block C is 30.75774639 and it descends with constant velocity.
a.) Find the tension in the rope connecting blocks A and B
b.) If the rope connecting A and B were cut, what would be the acceleration?

[PLAIN][URL]http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww359/anyone11/awewae.jpg[/PLAIN][/URL]

given:
w1 = 25
w2 = 25
w3 = 30.75774639
coefficient of friction (u) = 0.35
normal force (N) = 25 (for both A and B)
g = 9.8m/s2

I already have an answer but it's different from my friend's. He assumed acceleration to be 0 because velocity is constant. But I really feel confident about my solution.

The Attempt at a Solution


a.)
T1 - f1 = m1g
T1 - u(N) = (w / g) x a
T1 - 0.35(25N) = 25N / 9.8 x a
T1 - 8.75N = 2.551020408a

T2 - f2 - T1 - w2x = m2a
T2 - u(w2 sin theta) - T1 - w2 (cos theta) = (w/g) x a
T2 - 0.35(25N sin 36.9) - T1 - (25 cos 36.9) = 25 / 9.8 x a
T2 - 25.24579343 - T1 = 2.551020408a

w3 - T2 = w3/g a
30.75774639 - T2 = 3.13854555 / 9.8 a

add the three..

T1 - 8.75N = 2.551020408a
T2 - 25.24579343 - T1 = 2.551020408a
30.75774639 - T2 = 30.75774639 / 9.8 a

-3.23804704 = 8.24086366 a

divide -3.23... by 8.24...

a = -0.392938911 m/s2

T1 - 8.75N = 2.551020408a
T1 - 8.75N = 2.551020408(-0.392938911)
T1 = 7.747604819N

b.)
T2 - 25.24579343 - T1 = 2.551020408a
30.75774639 - T2 = 3.13854555/ 9.8 a

add -25.24... and 30.76... and 2.5... and 2.55... and 3.14...
then, divide...

a = 7.012084432m/s2

So, that's my solution. Who's correct, my solution or my friend's where he assumed acceleration to be 0. Please teach me the correct formula. :)
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
Well, I think yours is wrong. Your answers are different from mine.
and f2 should be 0.35(25cos36.9).
you seems to use the wrong component.
and what is w2x? the horizontal component of w2?

BTW, I want to know your friend's work.

anyway, I'm not the assistant, please wait for their help.
 
Last edited:
city25 said:
Well, I think yours is wrong. Your answers are different from mine.
and f2 shold be 0.35(25cos36.9).
you seems to use the wrong component.
and what is w2x? the horizontal component of w2?

BTW, I want to know your friend's work.

anyway, I'm not the assistant, please wait for their help.

Sorry, I forgot to use another variable. w2x is w2 (cos theta).
I forgot how my friend did it but I think his answer to letter A is 8.75(not sure though).
His letter B is 6m/s2 (forgot the exact amount. acceleration is 6 point something)
 
Ogakor said:
Sorry, I forgot to use another variable. w2x is w2 (cos theta).
I forgot how my friend did it but I think his answer to letter A is 8.75(not sure though).
His letter B is 6m/s2 (forgot the exact amount. acceleration is 6 point something)
I have the answer 8.75N in a) too.
But my ans in b) is 3 point something.
 
Kindly see the attached pdf. My attempt to solve it, is in it. I'm wondering if my solution is right. My idea is this: At any point of time, the ball may be assumed to be at an incline which is at an angle of θ(kindly see both the pics in the pdf file). The value of θ will continuously change and so will the value of friction. I'm not able to figure out, why my solution is wrong, if it is wrong .
Thread 'Voltmeter readings for this circuit with switches'
TL;DR Summary: I would like to know the voltmeter readings on the two resistors separately in the picture in the following cases , When one of the keys is closed When both of them are opened (Knowing that the battery has negligible internal resistance) My thoughts for the first case , one of them must be 12 volt while the other is 0 The second case we'll I think both voltmeter readings should be 12 volt since they are both parallel to the battery and they involve the key within what the...
Thread 'Trying to understand the logic behind adding vectors with an angle between them'
My initial calculation was to subtract V1 from V2 to show that from the perspective of the second aircraft the first one is -300km/h. So i checked with ChatGPT and it said I cant just subtract them because I have an angle between them. So I dont understand the reasoning of it. Like why should a velocity be dependent on an angle? I was thinking about how it would look like if the planes where parallel to each other, and then how it look like if one is turning away and I dont see it. Since...
Back
Top