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How can we differentiate among the lifetimes of the excited states of the hydrogen atom? The states are:
2p, 2s, 3s, 3p
2p, 2s, 3s, 3p
Yes, it is a homework question. But how can I do the rough estimates on the basis of decay modes?mfb said:You can look them up. You can also calculate them with some knowledge of quantum mechanics and a few integrals. The more precise you want it the more work is necessary.
For rough estimates it is sufficient to find the possible (“allowed”) decay modes.
Is this a homework question?
I think, it should be gamma decay since in every transition, it will emit a photon.mfb said:I moved the thread to our homework section.
Which decay modes are allowed for these states?
The final state in each case should be 1s.mfb said:It is only called gamma for nuclear transitions. Photon emission, sure, but what are the possible final states in each case?
That's a premature bump. People come and go on PhysicsForums, as many are quite busy in real life.sumit_1 said:Is the discussion over?
Ultimately, yes. But I would imagine that the context is that of electric dipole transitions. What are the selection rules? Also, even if the there is a single final state, can't intermediate processes be observed?sumit_1 said:The final state in each case should be 1s.
Yes, there can be.DrClaude said:That's a premature bump. People come and go on PhysicsForums, as many are quite busy in real life.
That's fine.Ultimately, yes. But I would imagine that the context is that of electric dipole transitions. What are the selection rules? Also, even if the there is a single final state, can't intermediate processes be observed?
Yes, I know, I need only hints.mfb said:So what are these intermediate processes?
Can 2p directly go to 1s? Can 2s? 3s? 3p?
Which intermediate states can be reached in between?
We won't finish your homework for you here, you can only get hints.
That's not correct. What are the dipole selection rules for transitions in the hydrogen atom? (Any decent textbook discussing those transitions will mention the selection rules.)sumit_1 said:2s can go directly to 1s , but 2p will go to 2s first and then to 1s.
similarly 3s first will come to 2p then it will come to 2s and then 1s.
3p will come to 3s first and then it will follow as described above.
Could you please give me any link for this?DrClaude said:That's not correct. What are the dipole selection rules for transitions in the hydrogen atom? (Any decent textbook discussing those transitions will mention the selection rules.)