The potential between a cone and a plate

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The discussion focuses on finding the electric potential V and electric field between a conducting cone and a grounded plate, with the cone kept at a constant potential V. The potential V is shown to be independent of radial (r) and angular (φ) coordinates, leading to a simplified Laplacian equation. The boundary condition for the cone at angle α is applied, and the potential difference is calculated between the cone and the plate, resulting in the expression for V. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly applying boundary conditions to derive the potential and electric field equations. The final formula for V is presented, allowing for the calculation of the electric field E as well.
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There is a conducting cone with angle α placed so that its vertex is normal to an electrically grounded plate, but electrically insulated from the plate and kept at a constant potential V. Find the potential V and the electric field in the region between the cone and the plate. End effects of the cone are neglected. V is independent of r and φ.

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If V is independent of r and Φ we know that the Laplacian reduces to:

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we have the boundary condition:

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The Attempt at a Solution



Firstly, rearranging the Laplacian to solve for dV:

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and integrating with respect to theta gives:

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Using the boundary condition for the cone:

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I don't really know how I can include the plane into my calculations. Any help would be very much appreciated.
 

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What you have calculated is the potential difference between two coaxial cone ,where the inner one has a potential of ##V## at ##{\theta}_1## and the outer one has a potential of 0 at ##{\theta}_2##.
So check your calculation again,and find the right equation which fulfill the boundary conditions.Now let ##{\theta}_2 ## tend to ##\frac{\pi}{2}##.Then you will find the desired expression
 
zengodspeed1 said:

Homework Statement


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There is a conducting cone with angle α placed so that its vertex is normal to an electrically grounded plate, but electrically insulated from the plate and kept at a constant potential V. Find the potential V and the electric field in the region between the cone and the plate. End effects of the cone are neglected. V is independent of r and φ.

Homework Equations


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If V is independent of r and Φ we know that the Laplacian reduces to:

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we have the boundary condition:

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The Attempt at a Solution



Firstly, rearranging the Laplacian to solve for dV:

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and integrating with respect to theta gives:

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Using the boundary condition for the cone:

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I don't really know how I can include the plane into my calculations. Any help would be very much appreciated.
You can do this by using the boundary condition on ##V##,i.e,
$$V(\frac{\pi}{2}) =0$$
 
Raihan amin said:
You can do this by using the boundary condition on ##V##,i.e,
$$V(\frac{\pi}{2}) =0$$
So by doing so I find that:

$$A = \frac{V_{0}}{ln(tan(\frac{\alpha}{2}))}$$

as B reduces to zero.

However I don't really understand what I am now doing with this information.
 
zengodspeed1 said:
So by doing so I find that:

$$A = \frac{V_{0}}{ln(tan(\frac{\alpha}{2}))}$$

as B reduces to zero.

However I don't really understand what I am now doing with this information.
Now put these value in the Original equation,and you are done.
 
Raihan amin said:
Now put these value in the Original equation,and you are done.
$$V(\theta) = V_{0} \frac{ln(tan(\frac{\theta}{2}))}{ln(tan(\frac{\alpha}{2}))}$$??
 
Now using this formula,you can find E too.
 

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