[thermo] pressure & steam tables related question

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To boil water at 110°C, the required pressure is 143.27 kPa, which is above atmospheric pressure of 101 kPa. The discussion revolves around whether to use absolute pressure or gauge pressure for calculating the lid weight needed to maintain this pressure. Using gauge pressure led to an estimated lid weight of approximately 76.14 kg, which was deemed excessive. A force equilibrium approach clarified that the correct method involves using absolute pressure to determine the lid weight accurately. The consensus is that absolute pressure should be used for these calculations to avoid unrealistic results.
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you want to boil a pot of water at 110 C
diameter of pot = 15cm
atmospheric pressure 101 kPa

what weight lid should you use?

i looked up the steam tables and water boils at 110 C at 143.27 kPa

so do i use that pressure or 143.27-101? (gauge pressure)

i used gauge and got something like ~76.14 kg.. which seems ridiculous for a lid weight

formula i used:

force = mass x 9.81
force = pressure * area
mass x 9.81 = pressure * area


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similar question but area = 5mm^2, atmospheric pressure = 101.3 kPa, and you want it to boil at 120 C

i got an answer of 0.101kg using absolute pressure and 0.049kg using gauge pressure

could you verify my answer and tell me which pressure i should be using.. absolute pressure or gauge pressure
 
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if you think about it, the force equilibrium is:

PinA = Wlid + PatmA

or

(Pin-Patm)A = Wlid
PgaugeA = Wlid
 
oh thanks you.. force equlibrium is a better way of looking at it :)
 
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