Thermodynamics : molar specific heats for gases

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The discussion revolves around calculating the temperature rise in a concert hall due to the metabolic heat generated by an audience of 2,750 people over two hours. The initial calculations using the molar specific heat for a monatomic gas yielded an unrealistic temperature change of 76.3 K, which was later corrected to 43.1 K. Participants debated whether to use the specific heat capacity for monatomic or diatomic gases, ultimately agreeing that air, primarily composed of nitrogen and oxygen, should use a diatomic heat capacity of 5/2 R. However, confusion arose when applying this value, resulting in a calculated temperature change of 45.8 K, which still did not match expected results. The thread highlights the complexities of thermodynamic calculations when considering the composition of gases in air.
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Homework Statement



An audience of 2750 fills a concert hall of volume 35000 m3. If there were no ventilation, by how much would the temperature of the air rise over a period of 2.0 h due to the metabolism of the people (70 W/person)?

Homework Equations



Q= nCvΔT
Cv= (3/2) R

The Attempt at a Solution


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Since the v keeps constant, we use Cv to calculate the change of T of the air. We want to get the value of ΔT and we know n and Cv.

The total heat release by audience: 2750 x 70 x 2.0 x 60 x 60 = 1386000000 J

PV=nRT, so n = PV/RT = (1.013 x 10^5 x 35000) / (8.314 x (20 + 273.15)) = 1454713 mole

Cv = 1.5 x 8.314 =12.471

ΔT = Q/ (n x Cv) = 76.3 K... which doesn't make sense.
 
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What about your answer doesn't make sense?
 
Oh sorry! I forgot to add that the answer is 43.1 K.
 
(3/2)R is the constant volume heat capacity of a monatomic ideal gas. Give you any ideas?
 
Yes I am kind of confused about which volume heat capacity I should use, since there are both monatomic and diatomic gas in air.
For diatomic gas, the heat capacity is 5/2 R, but I don't know if I should use that.
 
R2D2 said:
Yes I am kind of confused about which volume heat capacity I should use, since there are both monatomic and diatomic gas in air.
For diatomic gas, the heat capacity is 5/2 R, but I don't know if I should use that.

Which gases are monatomic? Nitrogen (79% of air)? Oxygen (21%)? Looks like everything else in the air is basically at trace levels only.
 
SteamKing said:
Which gases are monatomic? Nitrogen (79% of air)? Oxygen (21%)? Looks like everything else in the air is basically at trace levels only.

So Cv should be 5/2 R instead of 3/2 R!
but I plug in Cv = 5/2 R I get 45.8 K as the answer, still not correct.. I don't know what is going wrong here with three degrees difference.
 
anyone helps? : P
 
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