Thevenin equivalent of resistor only circuit

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of Thevenin equivalents in circuits composed solely of resistors. Participants explore whether a Thevenin equivalent must include a voltage source and the implications of representing a resistor network as a single resistor.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if a Thevenin equivalent can consist solely of a resistor without a voltage source, referencing an exam question.
  • Another participant suggests that calling a resistor network reduced to one resistor a "Thevenin equivalent" may be technically correct but lacks practical meaning.
  • A different participant expresses confusion about the relevance of such a question on an exam, noting the absence of any sources in the circuit.
  • One participant argues that Thevenin equivalents are useful for determining equivalent resistance in various scenarios, even without voltage sources.
  • Another participant proposes considering the circuit as having a 0V independent source to justify the Thevenin equivalent representation.
  • A later reply raises a question about the clarity of the original question, specifically regarding the points across which the Thevenin voltage is measured.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of a voltage source in a Thevenin equivalent, with no consensus reached on the appropriateness of the exam question regarding a resistor-only circuit.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential ambiguities in the question regarding the measurement points for Thevenin voltage, indicating a lack of clarity in the problem statement.

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Homework Statement


Find thevenin equivalent of resistor circuit


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The Attempt at a Solution


This may be a dumb question, but does a thevenin equivalent NEED to have a voltage source? On my final exam there was a question that asked for the thevenin equivalent of a circuit that was only resistors. Finding the thevenin resistance was no problem so I just put that resistance in series with a 0V voltage source. Can the thevenin equivalent be just a resistor?
 
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Hm ... I think in practical terms it's pretty meaningless to call a resistor network reduced down to one resistor a "Thevenin equivalent" but I suppose technically it is.
 
Yeah that's kinda why I don't see why that type of circuit would be used on an exam to ask for a thevenin equivalent circuit. If there was even one type of independent or dependent source involved i could see the point, but there was none.
 
The Thevian equivalent circuit is used for giving simple values to complex circuits.

There are many situations where you are going to find the equivalent resistance of a circuit using the thevian theorem, such as finding a circuits input resistance, output resistance, and load. In all of those cases, there will not be any voltage sources on the circuit.
 
I see your point. However, that is pretty common. Think of it as a circuit with 0 V (independent) source.
 
Hey,thevinin voltage across which two point? Is it across a resistor? Or any resistor in the network?
I think the question lacks clarity
 

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