Threshold energy,cross section of incident proton on oxygen-18

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the threshold energy and cross-section data for charged particle interactions, specifically protons interacting with oxygen-18 and oxygen-16. Participants seek sources for this information, including references for specific reactions and their respective energies.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about where to find cross-section data for oxygen-18 interactions, noting that ENDF is a potential source.
  • One participant mentions that the threshold energy can be determined through energy and momentum conservation but lacks specific sources for cross-section data.
  • Another participant highlights the rarity of oxygen-18 and suggests that literature may be necessary to find relevant cross-section and threshold information for proton interactions.
  • Participants discuss the possibility of different nuclear reactions occurring at various proton energies (5MeV, 10MeV, 20MeV) but do not provide specific outcomes.
  • One participant references the Brookhaven National Laboratory as a source for cross-section data and suggests looking into cosmic radiation literature for additional context.
  • There is mention of specific reactions involving oxygen-16, such as 16O(p,a)13N, and the challenge of locating this information in databases.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that finding specific cross-section data for oxygen-18 is challenging due to its rarity, and there is no consensus on the exact sources or methods to obtain the desired information. Multiple views on how to approach the problem remain present.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the potential unavailability of specific reaction data in the referenced databases and the need for further literature review to clarify the interactions at different energy levels.

Who May Find This Useful

Researchers and students interested in nuclear physics, particularly those focusing on charged particle interactions and reaction cross-sections involving isotopes like oxygen-18 and oxygen-16.

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Dear Forum:

I would like to know where could I find
charged particle interaction cross section for oxygen-18?
I know I can get some of it from ENDF.
https://www-nds.iaea.org/exfor/endf.htm

Where can I get reference,like the threshold energy for 18O(p,n)18F is 2.5MeV and its cross section.
https://www-nds.iaea.org/medical/o8p18f0.html

How can I get the threshold energy and cross section and reference of them.
p + O18 -> O17 + n + p
p + O18 -> N14 + n + alpha

or after 5MeV, 10MeV, 20 MeV different reaction will happen ?
thanks
 
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The threshold energy is just energy (+momentum if you want to be precise) conservation.
I have no idea about cross-section sources for various energies.
 
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flied said:
Dear Forum:

I would like to know where could I find
charged particle interaction cross section for oxygen-18?
I know I can get some of it from ENDF.
https://www-nds.iaea.org/exfor/endf.htm

Where can I get reference,like the threshold energy for 18O(p,n)18F is 2.5MeV and its cross section.
https://www-nds.iaea.org/medical/o8p18f0.html

How can I get the threshold energy and cross section and reference of them.
p + O18 -> O17 + n + p
p + O18 -> N14 + n + alpha

or after 5MeV, 10MeV, 20 MeV different reaction will happen ?
thanks
I believe one has identified the key source for such information. O-18 is relatively rare, 0.205% of natural oxygen. I believe one will have to go to the literature to find cross-sections and thresholds for p,n reactions.
https://www-nds.iaea.org/medical/o8p18f7.html
 
Thanks.
I know that O-18 is a relatively rare element, so it's not easy to find information about it.
Considering the most general one like O-16 in water,
how could I know what kind of nuclear reaction will occur if charged particle like proton interact with it.
There is 16O(p,a)13N.
https://www-nds.iaea.org/medical/o6p13n0.html
How to get information about if the incident proton energy is 10MeV, 20MeV.
What other kinds of nuclear reaction occurs ?
 
flied said:
Thanks.
I know that O-18 is a relatively rare element, so it's not easy to find information about it.
Considering the most general one like O-16 in water,
how could I know what kind of nuclear reaction will occur if charged particle like proton interact with it.
There is 16O(p,a)13N.
https://www-nds.iaea.org/medical/o6p13n0.html
How to get information about if the incident proton energy is 10MeV, 20MeV.
What other kinds of nuclear reaction occurs ?
I believe one has to go to the literature, most likely articles on cosmic radiation or solar protons and their interactions in the atmosphere.

Brookhaven National Laboratory publishes cross-section data.

http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/sigma/

One can then select particular reactions and databases, e.g.,
http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/sigma/index.jsp?show=nd.3&as=16&lib=jendl3.3&nsub=10010
 
Astronuc said:
I believe one has to go to the literature, most likely articles on cosmic radiation or solar protons and their interactions in the atmosphere.

Brookhaven National Laboratory publishes cross-section data.

http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/sigma/

One can then select particular reactions and databases, e.g.,
http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/sigma/index.jsp?show=nd.3&as=16&lib=jendl3.3&nsub=10010

Astronuc , thanks for your response.
I select all of the 8 library to find proton interaction with O-16,
but it seems that I can not even find 16O(p,a)13N out of it.
 

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