Toilet Tissue Held by Air Velocity or Pressure?

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Toilet tissue held against a ceiling grille is influenced by air velocity and differential pressure. When air is exhausted through a smaller grille, the higher velocity creates a pressure difference that keeps the tissue in place, while a larger grille results in insufficient velocity to maintain that pressure difference, causing the tissue to fall. The gravitational force from Earth is always acting downward, necessitating an opposing force to keep the tissue suspended. This phenomenon can be explained using the Bernoulli equation, which describes how increased airspeed leads to lower pressure. An analogous example is the bulging of a truck cover, where faster-moving air creates a pressure drop that pulls the cover outward.
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a piece of toilet tissue is held against a ceiling grille. Is it held there by air velocity or differential pressure.

If the grille exhausting 50l/s through a 100x100mm egg crate opening the tissue may be held up.

If however the same air flow gives through a 500x500 mm grille, it will fall down.

For me the difference is velocity. So is the tissue held there by velocity?
 
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No. The Earth is pulling it down by gravitational force. To prevent falling, some other force is needed to offset that. So it is held in position by a force, which of course depends on this air flow. And you are close with your hypothesis: the higher over-all velocity in the first case leads to higher velocity differences and that causes a pressure difference that keeps the tissue in place. The place to look for a description is in the Bernoulli equation.

A nice example of the same phenomenon is the bulging of a truck cover sail at the front end (behind the driver cabin): the air is pushed aside by the truck and has to move faster to get out of the way. That higher speed creates a lower pressure which 'pulls out' the cover in a bulge.
 
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