Transformation between electric and magnetic fields

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The discussion explores the duality between electric and magnetic fields, particularly how a charge experiences different forces when in motion relative to a current-carrying wire. It highlights a confusion regarding the source of the electric field that appears when transforming to the charge's rest frame, questioning how a neutral current can generate an electric field. The conversation touches on Gauss's law and the implications of Lorentz transformations, suggesting that the equivalence of electric and magnetic fields cannot be fully explained by non-relativistic physics. There is also a query about the effects of differing drift velocities on this phenomenon. The thread concludes with an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in these concepts.
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Hi,

The following is the standard qualitative explanation of the duality between electric field and the magnetic field given in our textbooks:

Let a long straight wire carry a constant current i. A charge kept at rest near it does not experience any force, implying the absence of electric fields. Now it is set in motion parallel to the wire. A radially outward force is needed to hold it in course, implying the presence of a magnetic field.

Now if the coordinate frame is transformed to the rest frame of the charge, the charge is static but the force stays, meaning an electric field has appeared.

What I don't understand (and the textbooks don't explain) is the source of this electric field. According to Gauss's law, only charge can create electric fields. But a current-carrying conductor is electrically neutral. Then what is the origin of this electric field? Does transformation of reference frame create charge? How?

Quantitatively, the magnetic force (and therefore the electric force) has a magnitude q v \frac {\mu i}{2 \pi r}, which implies a linear charge density of v \frac {i}{c^2} on the wire (excuse any mistakes as I was doing the calculation in my head) which is a very small but still non-zero charge density. Where does it appear from? Does this have anything to do with Lorentz transformations?

Thanks a lot.

Molu
 
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Thanks, that's a nice explanation. So the equivalence of electric and magnetic fields cannot be explained in non-relativistic physics (though non-relativistic electrodynamics is perhaps a contradiction).

Molu
 
Does it work if the drift velocity is different from the speed of the charge?
 
Paulanddiw said:
Does it work if the drift velocity is different from the speed of the charge?

Does what work?

Molu
 
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