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Homework Statement



[itex]\displaystyle \int _0 ^a 4x^2 \sqrt{a^2-x^2} dx[/itex]

Homework Equations



[itex]\cos^2 x =1 - \sin^2 x[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



Substuting

Substituting [itex]x=a \sin(\theta)[/itex]

[itex]dx=a\cos( \theta) d\theta[/itex]

x=0
asin[itex]\theta[/itex]=0
sin[itex]\theta[/itex]=0
[itex]\theta[/itex]=0

[itex]\displaystyle \int_{0}^{a} 4x^2 \sqrt{a^2-x^2} dx =[/itex]

[itex]\displaystyle \int_{0}^{\pi/2} 4(a\sin\theta)^2 \sqrt{a^2-(a\sin\theta)^2} a\cos\theta d\theta=[/itex]

[itex]\displaystyle \int_{0}^{\pi/2} 4a^2sin^2\theta \sqrt{a^2-a^2sin^2\theta}a\cos\theta d\theta=[/itex]

[itex]\displaystyle \int_{0}^{\pi/2} 4a^2sin^2\theta a \sqrt{1-sin^2\theta}a\cos\theta d\theta=[/itex]

[itex]\displaystyle \int_{0}^{\pi/2} 4a^2sin^2\theta a cos\theta a\cos\theta d\theta=[/itex]

[itex]\displaystyle 4a^4\int_{0}^{\pi/2} sin \theta cos^2 \theta d\theta=[/itex]

U substitution

[itex]u=cos\theta[/itex]

[itex]-du= sin\theta d\theta[/itex]

[itex]\displaystyle 4a^4\int u^2 du=[/itex]
When I put in the bounds it yields from 1 to 0. What did I do wrong
 
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So the code is messed up basically

Integral from 0 to a [4x^2 squareroot(a^2 - x^2)]dx =

4a^4 integral from 0 to pi/2 [sin theta cos^2 theta] dtheta

I'm stuck trying to change the bounds with a u substitution
 
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Archimedes II said:

Homework Statement



[itex]\displaystyle \int _0 ^a 4x^2 \sqrt{a^2-x^2} dx[/itex]

Homework Equations



[itex]\cos^2 x =1 - \sin^2 x[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



Substituting [itex]x=a \sin(\theta)[/itex]

[itex]dx=a\cos( \theta) d\theta[/itex]

New Bounds

x=a
a sin[itex]\theta[/itex]=a
sin[itex]\theta[/itex]=1
[itex]\theta[/itex]=[itex]\pi[/itex]/2x=0
asin[itex]\theta[/itex]=0
sin[itex]\theta[/itex]=0
[itex]\theta[/itex]=0

[itex]\displaystyle \int_{0}^{a} 4x^2 \sqrt{a^2-x^2} dx =[/itex]

[itex]\displaystyle \int_{0}^{\pi/2} 4(a\sin\theta)^2 \sqrt{a^2-(a\sin\theta)^2}\ \, a\cos\theta d\theta=[/itex]
I fixed your LaTeX code up to this point.

[itex]\int from 0 to \pi/2 4(a^2sin^2\theta)\sgrt{a^2-(a^2sin^2\theta)} acos\theta d\theta[/itex]=

[itex]\int from 0 to \pi/2 4(a^2sin^2\theta) a \sgrt{(1- sin\theta)} acos\theta d\theta[/itex]=

[itex]\int from 0 to \pi/2 4(a^2sin^2\theta) a sos\theta acos\theta d\theta[/itex]=

[itex]4a^4\int form 0 to \pi/2 sin \theta cos^2 \theta d\theta[/itex]

Let u= [itex]cos/theta[/itex]

thus -du=[itex]sin/theta d\theta[/itex]

My problems is when I set the new bounds I get from 1 to 0 not 0 to 1. What am I doing wrong?
Here is the Code for some of the lines I fixed:

Code:
[itex]\displaystyle \int_{0}^{a} 4x^2 \sqrt{a^2-x^2} dx =[/itex]

[itex]\displaystyle \int_{0}^{\pi/2}  4(a\sin\theta)^2 \sqrt{a^2-(a\sin\theta)^2} a\cos\theta d\theta=[/itex]

The "\displaystyle" modifier allows the integral symbol to be larger than otherwise.

I'll let you edit the Original Post .
 
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Ok, I fixed it thank you very much. I didn't know how to put a bound into the intergral code.
 
Archimedes II said:
...

[itex]\displaystyle 4a^4\int_{0}^{\pi/2} sin \theta cos^2 \theta d\theta=[/itex]

U substitution

[itex]u=cos\theta[/itex]

[itex]-du= sin\theta d\theta[/itex]

When I put in the bounds it yields from 1 to 0. What did I do wrong
So you get

[itex]\displaystyle -4a^4\int_{1}^{0} u^2\,du[/itex]

Right?
 
SammyS said:
So you get

[itex]\displaystyle -4a^4\int_{1}^{0} u^2\,du[/itex]

Right?

Yes but the how can the bound be from a higher number to a smaller one.
 
SammyS said:
What does switching the order do to the integral?

I solved it I forgot to square the sin at the end. I did't need to use a u substitution.

Any regardless if you have that bound it yields a negative answer.

Thanks for helping though.

The answer is

[itex]\pi a^4/4[/itex]
 
Archimedes II said:
I solved it I forgot to square the sin at the end. I didn't need to use a u substitution.

Any regardless if you have that bound it yields a negative answer.

Thanks for helping though.

The answer is

[itex]\pi a^4/4[/itex]
Yes. It works out just fine either way.

Switching the limits of integration switches the sign. That's good because it got rid of that leading negative sign.

... and you learned a bit more of LaTeX coding .