Triple integral volume problem, volume between 2 paraboloids

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The problem involves finding the volume of a solid region bounded by two paraboloids, specifically z = 1 + x² + y² and z = 4 - 2x² - 11y². The original poster expresses difficulty in setting up the triple integral due to complex limits of integration and questions the applicability of cylindrical coordinates given the elliptical intersection.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss setting up a double integral based on the intersection of the paraboloids and the elliptical boundary. There is mention of determining limits for y and x based on the ellipse equation x² + 4y² = 1, with some participants questioning the complexity of the integral setup.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into simplifying the integral by considering symmetry and splitting the region into quarters. However, there is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed, and multiple interpretations of the limits are being explored.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes that the problem is derived from a past exam, indicating potential constraints on the methods that can be used. The discussion also reflects uncertainty regarding the limits of integration and the choice of coordinate system.

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Homework Statement



Find the volume of the solid region E bounded by the paraboloids z = 1+x^2+y^2 and
z = 4 - 2x^2 - 11y^2





The Attempt at a Solution


i set up a triple integral using Cartesian coordinates but was unable to solve it because the limits of integration where very hard to integrate, i don't think you can use cylindrical coordinates because the intersection is an eclipse: x^2 + 4y^2 = 1. PLease somebody show me a good method to do this question as it was in a past exam and might come up again.

Please help me. thanks.
 
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Know what, I didn't do it all but doesn't look like the regular way would be too hard.
[tex]4\mathop\iint\limits_{\text{1/4 my ellipse}} \left(z_1(x,y)-z_2(x,y)\right) dydx[/tex]

and since you have the equation of the ellipse:

[tex]x^2+4y^2=1[/tex]

not hard to get the upper limit on y right? Then x just goes from one side to the other.

What happens when you do that?
 
jackmell said:
Know what, I didn't do it all but doesn't look like the regular way would be too hard.
[tex]4\mathop\iint\limits_{\text{1/4 my ellipse}} \left(z_1(x,y)-z_2(x,y)\right) dydx[/tex]

and since you have the equation of the ellipse:

[tex]x^2+4y^2=1[/tex]

not hard to get the upper limit on y right? Then x just goes from one side to the other.

What happens when you do that?

is the limits for y: 0<= y < = (√(1-x^2))/2 ?? and then for x it is 0<=x<=1
 
Yes.
 
thanks jackmell i really like how you split it up to a quarter and multiplied by 4 to take advantage of the symmetry. NOw the integral is not as complicated as the one i initially had when i went from -(√(1-x^2))/2 <= y <= (√(1-x^2))/2
 

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