Turbulent flow, verifying a general DE solution

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves analyzing the motion of a metal sphere falling through a fluid, specifically focusing on the acceleration and verifying a general differential equation solution related to turbulent flow dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formulation of the differential equation and the assumptions regarding initial conditions. There is an exploration of the relationship between hyperbolic functions and the solution form, with some suggesting to verify the solution by substitution.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and confirming assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of hyperbolic functions, and there is an acknowledgment of the initial condition. However, no consensus has been reached on the method of solving the differential equation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential limitations of computational tools like Wolfram in solving the differential equation, which may influence their confidence in their own problem-solving abilities.

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Homework Statement


Consider a metal sphere of radius r, drag coefficient C, density p_s falling in a fluid p and viscosity n.
Find the acceleration:
I found this to be g - p/p_s * g - (3C/(8*p_s*r))*v^2. Others were in agreeal with this so take it as given.

***Show that your result has the solution v=atanh(bt) and find constants a and b.***

***the part I am on

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The Attempt at a Solution



So, I let C = g-p/p_s* g since this is a constant term and the same for the ones preceding v^2. I just let P = this stuff.
Thus i have v'=C-P*v^2
Now I have no idea how to solve this DE with the knowledge that I have but the general form of the solution was given.
So I'm guessing there's some sort of other way to verify it, but I'm not sure how.

PS: I'm assuming an initial condition is v(0) = 0 as this was needed in another part.
 
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That's a good assumption for initial condition.

The best thing to realize is that tanh=sinh/cosh

You know that sinh and cosh are expressed as a combination of exponentials. So find the solution in terms of exponentials, and work the tanh into that solution.
 
Actually, now that I think about it, the problem is even easier than that. Simply plug tanh in, and show that it works. From there it should just be some algebra to figure out what constant is what.
 
Hey Mindscrape,

Thanks for the reply :).

It turned out I did have the knowledge to solve that DE. I assumed it wasn't separable because when i fed it into Wolfram, Wolfram proceeded to vomit. I guess I shouldn't assume Wolfram is so high and mighty such that if it can't do it then I can't.

Thanks again,
Redbeard
 

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