Two blocks on a plane connected with a Rod

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The problem involves two blocks, m1 and m2, connected by a weightless rod on an inclined plane with a specified angle and coefficient of friction. The goal is to determine the common acceleration and tension in the rod, given the masses of the blocks.

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  • Participants discuss the equations of motion for each block and explore the implications of adding the equations together. Some suggest considering the scenario without the rod to simplify the problem.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with some participants identifying errors in previous calculations and discussing the implications of the blocks moving with the same acceleration. Guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the blocks' movements and the tension in the rod.

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Participants reference historical figures in physics to illustrate concepts, and there is mention of the assumptions regarding friction and the effects of gravity on the blocks' motion.

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Homework Statement


Two blocks m1 and m2 are connected by a weightless rod are on a inclined plane of ∅=37° and μ =0.25 .What is the common acceleration and Tension of rod if m1 is 4 kg and m2 is 2 kg such that the 4kg block is the upper block.
OPTIONS

A =4m/2 T=0
B =2m/2 T=5N
C =
10m/2 T=10N
D = 15m/2 T = 9N

Homework Equations


F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution



Looking at m1

T + m1gsinø - friction1 =ma
T +m1gsinø -μm1gcosø =m1a...

Looking at m2
m2gsinø - T - μm2gcosø =m2a...[II]Adding I and II

i got a =5m/s2 which is WRONG. :(
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" Adding I and II " seems to cover a lot of maths! So I don't know what you did there.

But, how about trying the problem without the rod first? What is the acceleration of each block then?

Edit: (Gallileo might have been able to help you with this problem.)
 
Merlin3189 said:
" Adding I and II " seems to cover a lot of maths! So I don't know what you did there.

But, how about trying the problem without the rod first? What is the acceleration of each block then?

Edit: (Gallileo might have been able to help you with this problem.)
Hold on gimme a min i'll just do that

Ps - Gallileo as in the actual gallileo or a user called Ga...eo ? Cuz the actual one...is...well...asleep.And i can't seem to wake him up !
 
Merlin3189 said:
" Adding I and II " seems to cover a lot of maths! So I don't know what you did there.

But, how about trying the problem without the rod first? What is the acceleration of each block then?

Edit: (Gallileo might have been able to help you with this problem.)

Wonderful !

UR A GENIUS !
I got accelaration is 4 m/s^2 for both block ...and if i look at the option in the question A =4m/2 T=0 it makes sense as tension in the rod should be Zero because they both mobing with same accelaration hence there is no need for tension to appear.

But...why didnt i get it previosly.

Ill try it again with the rod in question
 
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Navin said:
Wonderful !

UR A GENIUS !
I got accelaration is 4 m/s^2 for both block ...and if i look at the option in the question A =4m/2 T=0 it makes sense as tension in the rod should be Zero because they both mobing with same accelaration hence there is no need for tension to appear.

But...why didnt i get it previosly.
Ill try it again with the rod in question

OH...MY...GOD
I realized my error which i did Thrice.

Apparantly m1 + m2 = 2m1

Oh my god how can i be so stoopid !

Thank you so much Merlin.
Thou Truly art as wise as the legends doth proclaim !
 
Thanks. It's the dead one! He decided that objects fell with the same acceleration whatever their mass and supposedly dropped two cannon balls off the tower at Pisa to prove it. By extension, two blocks sliding down an incline should have the same acceleration, if all other factors like friction are the same.
So I just picked the answer with 0 tension and then tried to get the acceleration to come to 4 m/s^2. (by making g=10 m/s^2)
 
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Merlin3189 said:
Thanks. It's the dead one! He decided that objects fell with the same acceleration whatever their mass and supposedly dropped two cannon balls off the tower at Pisa to prove it. By extension, two blocks sliding down an incline should have the same acceleration, if all other factors like friction are the same.
So I just picked the answer with 0 tension and then tried to get the acceleration to come to 4 m/s^2. (by making g=10 m/s^2)
The bodies of The Wise have long turned to dust
But their wisdom rise from their ashes
Like a phoenix.
 

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