How to Calculate the Mass of the Left Block in a Pulley System?

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To calculate the mass of the left block in a pulley system, the acceleration of the system is determined to be -2.5 m/s² using the time and height of the 100 kg block. The gravitational force on the 100 kg block is calculated as 980 N, leading to a tension force of either 730 N or 750 N, depending on the value of g used. The incorrect mass of 292 kg was derived from miscalculating the forces acting on the left block. To resolve the issue, applying Newton's second law to both blocks and considering the tension and acceleration consistently is recommended. A clearer understanding of the forces involved will help in finding the correct mass of the left block.
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Homework Statement



The figure shows a 100 kg block being released from rest from a height of 1.0 m. It then takes 0.90 s to reach the floor. What is the mass of the block on the left?

Illustration shows a pulley connected to the ceiling, with a block of 100 kg on the right, and a block of unknown mass on the left.


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The Attempt at a Solution



I used this to find acceleration of the system:
0 = 1 + (0.5)(a) [(0.90)^2]
a = (-2.5) m/s^2

I drew a diagram. F_G on the bottom, 100 * 9.8 = 980N down.

F = ma so (100)(2.5) = 250, and that must mean that the vector pointing up in my diagram will be 730N (980 - 250 = 750).

So, the 750 comes from the other block. F = ma again, solve for m I get 292 kg, which is not the right answer.

Where did I go wrong?

Thank you
 
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oneamp said:

Homework Statement



The figure shows a 100 kg block being released from rest from a height of 1.0 m. It then takes 0.90 s to reach the floor. What is the mass of the block on the left?

Illustration shows a pulley connected to the ceiling, with a block of 100 kg on the right, and a block of unknown mass on the left.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I used this to find acceleration of the system:
0 = 1 + (0.5)(a) [(0.90)^2]
a = (-2.5) m/s^2

I drew a diagram. F_G on the bottom, 100 * 9.8 = 980N down.

F = ma so (100)(2.5) = 250, and that must mean that the vector pointing up in my diagram will be 730N (980 - 250 = 750).
Up to here is (almost) OK.
You found the tension in the rope. It is not clear if it's 730N or 750N (it depends on taking g=9.8 or 10 m/s^2).


oneamp said:
So, the 750 comes from the other block. F = ma again, solve for m I get 292 kg, which is not the right answer.

Where did I go wrong?

Thank you
Now write Newton's second law for the other block. You know the tension in the rope and the acceleration (same as for the first block).
 
The way I deal with Atwood problems is to first translate the vertical forces to horizontal ones, it makes it easier for me to deal with the forces involved, and gets rid of the confusion of having the pulley. Here's a picture of what I mean. Try applying Newton's Laws to the system on the right.
 

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