Two protons moving toward each other

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Two protons, each with an initial kinetic energy of 0.16 MeV, are moving toward each other, and the goal is to find their separation when they momentarily stop. The potential energy is calculated using the equation for electric potential energy, U = (1/4πε)(q1q2/r). A common mistake noted in the discussion is neglecting to account for the total initial kinetic energy, which should be doubled since both protons contribute. One participant shared their calculations but realized they had not correctly considered the combined kinetic energy, leading to an incorrect distance result. Clarifications were requested for understanding the problem-solving process in detail.
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Homework Statement



Two protons that are very far apart are hurled straight at each other, each with an initial kinetic energy of 0.16 MeV, where 1 mega electron volt is equal to 10^6*(1.6*10^-19) joules. What is the separation of the protons from each other when they momentarily come to a stop?


Homework Equations



E=mc^2+K+U
U,electric=(1/4 pi epsilon)*(q1q2/r)

The Attempt at a Solution



I've been trying to figure this one out for about a half hour. I tried finding the potential energy U by rearranging terms in the equation for E. I then took that number and set it equal to (1/4 pi epsilon)*(q1q2/r)) and tried to find r (the distance) that way, but my answer was wrong. Any ideas?
 
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I can't work out what you did but if you set the initial kinetic energy equal to the final potential energy, it's trivial, surely ?
 
Mentz114 said:
I can't work out what you did but if you set the initial kinetic energy equal to the final potential energy, it's trivial, surely ?


Thanks...that's what I did. I took that number and then used that in the equation for electric potential energy to obtain the distance.

Sometimes I have a habit of making silly mistakes/overthinking things.
 
rkjul said:

The Attempt at a Solution



I've been trying to figure this one out for about a half hour. I tried finding the potential energy U by rearranging terms in the equation for E. I then took that number and set it equal to (1/4 pi epsilon)*(q1q2/r)) and tried to find r (the distance) that way, but my answer was wrong. Any ideas?

Your description is a bit nebulous. Could you please show your numerical calculations? What result have you been getting?
 
I am attempting to solve this problem. It seems simple enough but I seem to be getting the wrong answer.

Here is what I have done:
Uf=Ki

9e9*(1.6e-19)2
--------------------- = (.16)(1e6)(1.6e-19)
r

2.304e-28 = 2.56e-14*r
r=9.0e-15

Can someone help me figure out where I went wrong?
 
Remember your initial energy is 2*(0.16 MeV), since both protons are moving.
 
That was the problem. Thank you very much.
 
I have this same homework question (but my Ki is .21MeV). Can someone explain it to me in detail? I'm trying to make sure I understand why it's done this way.
 
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