Under Pressure Finding the height of compressed air

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The discussion revolves around calculating the height of compressed air in a cylinder with a piston, using the principles of pressure and volume relationships. The initial approach involved applying the equation P1V1=P2V2, but the user encountered difficulties, particularly with the quadratic equation yielding complex numbers. A key oversight was identified: the need to account for atmospheric pressure in addition to the weight of the mercury. After correcting this, the user successfully solved the problem, confirming their understanding of the concepts involved. The conversation highlights the importance of considering all forces acting on the system when solving pressure-related problems.
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Homework Statement


A 1.0--tall cylinder contains air at a pressure of 1 . A very thin, frictionless piston of negligible mass is placed at the top of the cylinder, to prevent any air from escaping, then mercury is slowly poured into the cylinder until no more can be added without the cylinder overflowing. Find the height of the compressed air. It recommends P1V1=P2V2 and that temperature is constant.


Homework Equations


P1V1=P2V2
F=mg
P=F/A



The Attempt at a Solution


P1V1=P2V2
P1A1m=P2hA
(P1*1M)/h=P2

The system is at rest so the force gravity is pulling on the Hg is balanced by the air pressure
PA=F=mg
A(P1*1M)/h=ρ(1-h)Ag
(P1*1M)/pg=h(1-h)
.76=-h^2 + h
0=-h^2 +h -.76
The answers is 76cm ( think the book is wrong) and that quadratic has answers with i in it. I'm unsure what I'm doing wrong! I asked my prof and he couldn't help me. I asked my lab instructor and he says what I did looked right. So 3 people (including me) have missed what is wrong with my work. Please help me :'(
 
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Am I on the right track for this?
 
Welcome to PF, IslandHead! :smile:

I believe you are forgetting that the outside force is not just the weight of the mercury, but also the atmospheric pressure.
 
so then it will be:

A(P1*1M)/h = 101300A + ρ(1-h)Ag

I'll try solving this
 
It works :D i got thanks!
 
Cheers! :smile:
 
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