Understanding Hinge Reactions: Debunking Common Misconceptions

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The discussion revolves around understanding hinge reactions in the context of tension and normal forces in a physics problem. Participants are examining the relationship between vertical components of forces and their directions, particularly in relation to a hinge setup.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the definition of normal reactions versus hinge reactions, exploring the implications of sign conventions in force resolution, and discussing the directionality of forces involved.

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The conversation is active, with participants providing clarifications on terminology and questioning the assumptions made in the problem setup. Some guidance has been offered regarding the definitions of forces, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the book's explanation.

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There appears to be confusion regarding the definitions of normal and hinge reactions, as well as the direction of forces based on different sign conventions. The original poster references a specific example from a textbook, which may not align with the interpretations being discussed.

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I think I may have forgotten some more basic elements of tension and normal reactions. I do not understand why the vertical component of the normal reaction =Tsin60-15g

Because Tsin60-15g is negative when resolving upwards, i would have thought this meant that the normal vertical reaction would have to be upwards so that that we would have 0 acceleration
 
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Svelte1 said:
why the vertical component of the normal reaction =Tsin60-15g
You mean the reaction at the wall, not the normal reaction. (By definition, the normal reaction would be at right angles to the wall.)
Whether it is Tsin60-15g or 15g-Tsin60 depends on which way you are defining as positive. Tsin60-15g is right if down is positive.
 
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haruspex said:
You mean the reaction at the wall, not the normal reaction. (By definition, the normal reaction would be at right angles to the wall.)
Whether it is Tsin60-15g or 15g-Tsin60 depends on which way you are defining as positive. Tsin60-15g is right if down is positive.

In the books workings it says they are resolving vertically upwards and clarifies that it is indeed the reaction at the hinge:
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Svelte1 said:
that it is indeed the reaction at the hinge:
Yes, reaction at the hinge, not normal reaction.

The book is wrong about the direction. If you take moments about B, both weights have a clockwise torque, so the hinge reaction must be upwards.
 
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