Understanding Turnbuckle Rotation: Solving for Shortening in a Multi-Rod System

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The discussion focuses on understanding the mechanics of a multi-rod system involving a turnbuckle on rod EF, which shortens by 1.5mm. It is clarified that when rod EF is shortened, rods AB and CD must extend to maintain the overall length of the system, as the vertical component remains constant. The confusion arises from the overlapping nature of the rods, complicating the calculation of forces and lengths. The problem requires establishing two equations based on static equilibrium to relate the tensions in the rods. Ultimately, the shortening of rod EF affects the tension and length of the other rods in the system.
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in this problem , it's not clear that whether the shortening of 1.5mm is for which rod , there are 3 rods in the diagram and forces applied at which part to cause the rotation ... ...

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Can somenoe explain about it ? if the forces is applied at rod Ef , then rod EF will shorten , and both rod AB and rod CD will either undergo shortening and lengthening , right ? [/B]
 

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chetzread said:
in this problem , it's not clear that whether the shortening of 1.5mm is for which rod

The problem statement says..

Determine the forces in the rods if a turnbuckle on rod EF undergoes one full turn

So it's clear that rod EF is the one being shortened. This will change the tension in the other two rods.
 
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CWatters said:
The problem statement says..
So it's clear that rod EF is the one being shortened. This will change the tension in the other two rods.
Is it a must that when the rod EF is shorten, then the rod AB and CD will extend?? I am confused...
 
Yes. If you shorten EF then AB and CD must get longer/extend. The total length (vertical component of BF) remains constant.
 
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CWatters said:
Yes. If you shorten EF then AB and CD must get longer/extend. The total length (vertical component of BF) remains constant.
The 0.0015 is the total length? I m confused ...
 
Perhaps forget I mentioned the total length. You can't work it out because the rods "overlap".

I'm struggling to read the worked answer in the image. Can you post an enlargement?
 
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CWatters said:
Perhaps forget I mentioned the total length. You can't work it out because the rods "overlap".

I'm struggling to read the worked answer in the image. Can you post an enlargement?
 

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OK the way to visualise this is to imagine that the rods have been assembled with no tension to set the initial length. Then they are disconnected and the lower rod is shortened by 1.5mm (0.0015m). Then the rods are reconnected. That requires the combination of rods to be stretched 1.5mm.

There are two rods at the top and one at the bottom so the 1.5mm is divided unequally between the top rods and the bottom rod. That's why they have an equation/sum that adds up to 0.0015m.

They also have another equation that relates the tension in the top two rods to the bottom rod. That's arrived at by noting that the system is in static equilibrium so the net force on beam is zero.

Now they have two equations and two unknowns.
 
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