Uniformly charged disk and the E field some distance Z from the center

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a uniformly charged disk and the electric field at a distance z from its center. Participants are exploring how the electric field behaves as the distance z increases, with some uncertainty about the mathematical treatment of the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equation for the electric field and the need for a binomial expansion to analyze the behavior of the field as z increases. There are questions about the manipulation of terms in the equation, particularly regarding the factorization of z in the denominator.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants offering corrections to the equation and suggesting that the electric field decreases as 1/z. However, there is a disagreement about the correctness of this conclusion, indicating that further examination of the binomial expansion is needed.

Contextual Notes

Participants are operating under the assumption that the disk behaves like a point charge at large distances, but there is uncertainty about the mathematical steps leading to this conclusion.

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Homework Statement



Hi,

I have a problem that describes a uniformly charged disk and the electric field a distance z from the center.

I have found an equation that describes the E field at any point z already. Now I have to find out how the E field decreases as z increases-- as 1/r^2, I assume, but I am not sure.

Homework Equations



E = 2\pikσz(1-\frac{z}{\sqrt{z^{2}+R^{2}}}) where R is the radius of the disk and z is the distance away from the disk.

The Attempt at a Solution



I know I have to do a binomial expansion of (R/z). I think I am having mathematical issues rather than physical issues.

Before the expansion, I need to get some term (R/z). Does taking out a z^{2) from the denominator leave a z^{4} out front? Or a z^{3} out front? If I can figure this out then I know the rest.
 
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##\sqrt{z^2+R^2} = \sqrt{z^2(1+(R/z)^2)}## and ##\sqrt{(a b)} = \sqrt{a}\sqrt{b}##
 
anban said:
E = 2\pikσz(1-\frac{z}{\sqrt{z^{2}+R^{2}}})

I believe you must have a typo in this expression. The dimensions on the right do not match the dimensions of electric field.
 
Good catch: The expression should be E = 2\pikσ(1-\frac{z}{\sqrt{z^{2}+R^{2}}}).

So, the denominator of the last term can be rewritten as z\sqrt{1-(R^{2}/z^{2})}. After a binomial expansion, I got that the E field decreases as 1/z.
 
anban said:
I got that the E field decreases as 1/z.

I don't think that's correct. Check your binomial expansion simplification. Your original idea that the disk should behave as a point charge for large distances is right.
 

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