Using Newtons law and mechanical energy?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a car rolling down an inclined ramp at an angle of 9.9 degrees. The problem requires the application of conservation of mechanical energy to determine the car's speed after rolling a distance of 52 meters down the ramp, with no friction considered.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the initial height of the car, questioning whether the 52 meters represents the change in height or the distance traveled along the ramp. There is an emphasis on the need to clarify the relationship between the ramp's angle and the height change.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the problem setup and the definitions of variables involved. Some have offered hints regarding the use of the ramp's angle to determine the correct change in height, indicating a productive exploration of the problem's assumptions.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the interpretation of the distance traveled along the ramp versus the vertical height change, which is compounded by the angle of inclination. The original poster's understanding of the problem setup is being questioned, and diagrams are suggested as a means to clarify the situation.

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1. Homework Statement [/b]
A car is rolling down a ramp that is inclined at and angle of 9.9 degree with respect to horizontal. There is no friction acting from the road on the tires.


Employ conservation of mechanical energy to find the speed of a car that starts from rest and rolls down the ramp a distance of 52 m.

2. Homework Equations [/b]

1/2mv(initial)^2+mgh(initial)=1/2mv(final)^2+mgh(final)


3. The Attempt at a Solution [/b]
Vi=0m/s
Vf=?
hi=52m
hf=0

52mg=1/2vf

2*52m*9.81m/s^2=vf

√1020.24m^2s^2=√v

31.94m/s=v

I got a 1 out of ten in this problem. most likely got the units right, but my math did I used the right equation?
 
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The initial height is not 52 m. Draw a diagram to see why this is the case.
 
subzero0137 said:
The initial height is not 52 m. Draw a diagram to see why this is the case.

ok I drew the free body diagram initial height is not 52m. would the 52 m be considered Δh?
 
Not quite - 52m is the distance the car travels down the ramp. It's change in height is not equal to this distance because this distance is composed of both the x and y distances. :)
 
Tsunoyukami said:
Not quite - 52m is the distance the car travels down the ramp. It's change in height is not equal to this distance because this distance is composed of both the x and y distances. :)

ok in this equation, where would the 52 m be placed, or am I using the proper equation for mechanical energy?
 
jimmyboykun said:
ok I drew the free body diagram initial height is not 52m. would the 52 m be considered Δh?

No.
HINT: You have to use the value of the angle of the ramp and 52 m to get your Δh.
 

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