Vector calculus book recommendation

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for vector calculus textbooks suitable for a physics major who has been away from mathematics and physics for some time. Participants explore various options, focusing on the need for rigorous proofs, examples, and problems, as well as the appropriateness of different texts for advanced study.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks advice on selecting a vector calculus book, expressing concerns about their background and the need for a solid foundation.
  • Another participant suggests a book but acknowledges it may be informal and not rigorous enough for the inquirer’s needs.
  • Some participants mention specific texts, such as "Advanced Calculus by Folland," noting its rigor but also its difficulty.
  • Recommendations include "Vector Calculus by Marsden & Tromba," which is described as rigorous and theoretical.
  • One participant highlights the importance of having a supplementary, more intuitive text like Stewart's Multivariable Calculus to aid understanding before tackling more difficult materials.
  • Several participants reference their own experiences with various texts, including "Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences by Mary L Boas" and "Mathematical Methods for Physicists by Arfken and Weber," noting their usefulness.
  • Some express nostalgia for older texts and mention their effectiveness in teaching high school students.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single recommended text, with multiple competing views on the appropriateness and rigor of various books. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best choice for the inquirer's needs.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that certain texts may lack rigor or omit exercises without answers, which could impact the learning experience. There is also mention of the difficulty level of recommended texts, suggesting that independent study may pose challenges.

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hey guys & gals ...
i need your advice in selecting the best possible Vector Calculus book for a physics major planning on pursuing his Master's and perhaps more in the future ... i have been away from math and physics for some time (~ 4 years) and do not have a solid Vec-Calc background. I've read mixed reviews about different books on amazon.com and can't quite decide on which book to go with. I have a general Calc book from the late 90s but it's not enough for advanced physics (well, as advanced as a master's degree would require).

Your advice is appreciated,

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Davers,
thanks for your reply. But isn't your recommended book an informal text on vector calculus? it does have great reviews, but i need something more fundamental with rigorous proofs, examples, and problems ... Griffiths which is the typical E&M undergrad also has vector calculus but there isn't much proof and examples. if you have other recommendations like which to choose between "Tromba, Hubbard, Colley, or Stewart" (or another author) as a more formal text on V-Calc, please let me know.
 
phyz76 said:
Davers,
thanks for your reply. But isn't your recommended book an informal text on vector calculus?

I've seen the book used as a supplemental text at UCSD for their E&M course.
 
Schaum's omits a lot of rigour and/or leaves it as exercise without answers.

The book my school uses is "Advanced Calculus by Folland, and it may be what your looking for. Very rigorous, but at the same time difficult. Its what physicists here are expected to know. Reviews aren't looking too great though. Check it out:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0130652652/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Another one my school used to use is Vector Calculus by Marsden & Tromba. It too is very rigorous and somewhat theoretical. Check it out:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0716724324/?tag=pfamazon01-20

These are very difficult texts from what I know, that really go in depth into vector calc. I haven't actually used them yet, because I start my course in a week. However, if your doing independent study, it might be difficult to grasp advanced concepts alone. So I'd recommend you take an easier book to supplement it, something like Stewart's Multivariable calculus which is rich on illustrations and gives you a strong intutitive feel. Once that is down, you can get down to the proofs and rigour in the books I mentioned above.

Hope this helps.
 
Here's two that have served me well:

Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences by Mary L Boas, Wiley $ Sons
(This one is not at a high level, but thorough)
and
Mathematical Methods for Physicists by Arfken and Weber, Elsevier Academic Press.
(This one seems to come in several versions... The two I have are both useful.)
 
i liked tromba and marsden when i taught out of it to hionors high school students about 25 years ago.

the classic for years was williamson, crowell, and trotter. of course apostol.
 
mathwonk said:
i liked tromba and marsden when i taught out of it to hionors high school students about 25 years ago.

the classic for years was williamson, crowell, and trotter. of course apostol.

Highschoolers learning from Tromba?

Why do I suddenly feel so much stupider... :(
 
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