Vehicle speed calculation from pedestrian throw distance

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The discussion focuses on calculating vehicle speed from pedestrian throw distance, specifically with a vehicle weight of 1220 kg and a pedestrian weight of 72 kg, resulting in a throw distance of 20.70 meters. Participants concluded that estimating speed based solely on this information is impractical due to various factors, including the angle of throw and energy absorption during the collision. For accurate assessments, knowledge of accident reconstruction analysis is essential, as it incorporates multiple variables beyond basic physics.

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  • Knowledge of energy transfer during vehicle-pedestrian collisions
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This discussion is beneficial for accident reconstruction professionals, forensic engineers, law enforcement personnel involved in traffic investigations, and anyone interested in understanding the complexities of vehicle-pedestrian collision dynamics.

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How can we calculate the speed of a vehicle from pedestrian throw distance ?
If the weight of a vehicle is 1220 kg and a pedestrian's weight is 72 kg. Throw distance is 20.70 meters.
 
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Do you mean estimating how fast a car was going when it hit a pedestrian and threw them down the street? I'm not sure you can estimate that using only the information provided...
 
Mech_Engineer said:
Do you mean estimating how fast a car was going when it hit a pedestrian and threw them down the street? I'm not sure you can estimate that using only the information provided...
Yes, that's what I want to know. What other information do you need ?
 
Fatlum said:
Yes, that's what I want to know. What other information do you need ?
To calculate using the laws of physics: the weight of the car, the weight of the pedestrian, the amount the speed of the car changed in the collision, the angle at which the pedestrian was thrown, the details of the damage done to the car in the collision including how much energy went into deforming fenders and the like, and probably some other stuff that I've overlooked.

As you might conclude from this list, the answer to your question ("How can we calculate...?") is that we can't; it's not practical to calculate these things from first principles.
 
Another confounding factor would be that the pedestrian would typically not follow a projectile trajectory but rather slide on the road surface. You will have to read up on accident reconstruction analysis to really understand what current techniques look like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_collision_reconstruction
 
Fatlum said:
How can we calculate the speed of a vehicle from pedestrian throw distance ?
If the weight of a vehicle is 1220 kg and a pedestrian's weight is 72 kg. Throw distance is 20.70 meters.
Data seems to be insufficient.

below links may help.
1) http://www.fpz.unizg.hr/traffic/index.php/PROMTT/article/viewFile/1020/8673

2) http://www.mcnallyassociates.com/onlinetools/speedfromthrow.htm
 
The disclaimer at the McNally Associates website says pretty much the same thing - you can't calculate the answer you want.

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