Vertical circular motion in uniform circular motion

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving vertical circular motion, specifically analyzing the motion of an airplane in a vertical loop with given parameters such as radius and speed. The problem requires determining the tangential acceleration and the direction of the plane's acceleration at the bottom of the loop.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of centripetal acceleration formulas and the relationship between tangential and centripetal acceleration. There are attempts to create free body diagrams to visualize forces acting on the plane. Some participants express uncertainty about how to calculate the tangential acceleration and how it relates to the total acceleration.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their attempts and reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct formulas to use, but there is no consensus on the solution yet. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts to clarify concepts and explore different aspects of the problem.

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There is mention of the total acceleration being expressed in terms of gravitational acceleration, and participants are questioning their understanding of the relationships between different types of acceleration in this context.

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Homework Statement


A pilot flies an airplane in a vertical circular loop with a radius of R = 1200 m. The plane is gaining speed as the pilot makes a dive, and its speed is measured to be 150 m/s when the plane reaches the bottom of the circle. If the total acceleration of the plane at the bottom is 2.3g, find (a) the tangential acceleration of the plane, (b) the direction of the plane’s acceleration at the bottom of the loop.


Homework Equations


What I can think of doing, is:
an=v2/R
and
a = an + at

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried making a free body diagram with the total force and an pointing toward the center, and the v and the at point to the right. At the bottom of the circle.
an = 1502/1200 = 18.75m/s2
a = 2.3g = 2.3/9.8m/s2 = 0.2346m/s2

but this doesn't give me my answer. The answer is (a) 12.5 m/s2 and (b) beta = 56.3o

(i don't know how to do a, so I can't start b)
 
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seanpk92 said:

Homework Statement


A pilot flies an airplane in a vertical circular loop with a radius of R = 1200 m. The plane is gaining speed as the pilot makes a dive, and its speed is measured to be 150 m/s when the plane reaches the bottom of the circle. If the total acceleration of the plane at the bottom is 2.3g, find (a) the tangential acceleration of the plane, (b) the direction of the plane’s acceleration at the bottom of the loop.


Homework Equations


What I can think of doing, is:
an=v2/R
yes, good
and
a = an + at
the tangential and centripetal acceleration vectors are at right angles to each other, so you need to add them vectorially to get the total acceleartaion.

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried making a free body diagram with the total force and an pointing toward the center,
yes
]and the v and the at point to the right.
yes, and the tangential force points in the same direction
At the bottom of the circle.
an = 1502/1200 = 18.75m/s2
a = 2.3g = 2.3/9.8m/s2 = 0.2346m/s2
2.3 g's means the acceleration is 2.3 times the gravitational acceleration
but this doesn't give me my answer. The answer is (a) 12.5 m/s2 and (b) beta = 56.3o

(i don't know how to do a, so I can't start b)
Correct you formula for total acceleration
 
Thank you so much PhantomJay!
 
seanpk92 said:
Thank you so much PhantomJay!
(You're) Welcome to PF!:smile:
 

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