Voltage, Current, Resistance Relationship

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The discussion revolves around the relationships between voltage, current, and resistance, particularly in the context of Ohm's law (V=IR). Participants explore the proportionality of these elements and the implications of short-circuit conditions in circuits.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants attempt to clarify the proportional relationships between current, voltage, and resistance, questioning whether current is inversely proportional to resistance and how voltage relates to both current and resistance.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the relationships defined by Ohm's law. Some guidance has been offered regarding the implications of low resistance in short circuits and its effect on current flow, though multiple interpretations of voltage's relationship with current and resistance are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the behavior of circuits under short-circuit conditions may not adhere to Ohm's law due to non-linear characteristics, indicating a complexity in the relationships being discussed.

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So I know [itex]V=IR[/itex] but can someone tell me which elements are proportional to each other?

...I believe current in inversely proportional to resistance but what about current and voltage. Also, what about voltage and resistance?
 
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Air said:
So I know [itex]V=IR[/itex] but can someone tell me which elements are proportional to each other?

...I believe current in inversely proportional to resistance but what about current and voltage. Also, what about voltage and resistance?
When we say x is proportional to y, this means we can write it in this form,

[tex]x = k\cdot y[/tex]

Where k is the constant of proportionality. When we say x is inversely proportional to y, we can write it in this form,

[tex]x = \frac{k^\prime}{y}[/tex]

Where k' is another constant of proportionality.

Now taking your example of current and resistance, you are indeed correct to say that current is inversely proportional to resistance because we can re-write Ohm's law thus,

[tex]I = \frac{V}{R}[/tex]

So in this case, V is our constant of proportionality.

Does that help to clear things up?
 
Hootenanny said:
When we say x is proportional to y, this means we can write it in this form,

[tex]x = k\cdot y[/tex]

Where k is the constant of proportionality. When we say x is inversely proportional to y, we can write it in this form,

[tex]x = \frac{k^\prime}{y}[/tex]

Where k' is another constant of proportionality.

Now taking your example of current and resistance, you are indeed correct to say that current is inversely proportional to resistance because we can re-write Ohm's law thus,

[tex]I = \frac{V}{R}[/tex]

So in this case, V is our constant of proportionality.

Does that help to clear things up?

So is it:

Voltage is proportional to resistance.
Voltage is proportional to current.

:confused:
 
Air said:
So is it:

Voltage is proportional to resistance.
Voltage is proportional to current.

:confused:
Indeed it is :approve:.
 
When a circuit short-circuits, does that mean current is zero hence resistance is low?
 
Air said:
When a circuit short-circuits, does that mean current is zero hence resistance is low?
The resistance is indeed usually low, but that doesn't mean that the current is low, in fact it's quite the opposite. A short-circuit simply means that the current flows along an unintended path. In practise this usually means that a low-impedance connection is made between two points in the circuit that would normally be at difference voltages. Since the resistance is low, this causes a large current to flow across the short.
 
Hootenanny said:
The resistance is indeed usually low, but that doesn't mean that the current is low, in fact it's quite the opposite. A short-circuit simply means that the current flows along an unintended path. In practise this usually means that a low-impedance connection is made between two points in the circuit that would normally be at difference voltages. Since the resistance is low, this causes a large current to flow across the short.

So, what about current? It's proportional to both so would it be high or low?
 
Air said:
So, what about current? It's proportional to both so would it be high or low?
Hootenanny said:
The resistance is indeed usually low, but that doesn't mean that the current is low, in fact it's quite the opposite. A short-circuit simply means that the current flows along an unintended path. In practise this usually means that a low-impedance connection is made between two points in the circuit that would normally be at difference voltages. Since the resistance is low, this causes a large current to flow across the short.
[tex]I = \frac{V}{R}[/tex]

The current is proportional to the voltage (which in this case is constant) and inversely proportional to the resistance, hence a low resistance results in a large current.
 
Hootenanny said:
[tex]I = \frac{V}{R}[/tex]

The current is proportional to the voltage (which in this case is constant) and inversely proportional to the resistance, hence a low resistance results in a large current.

...And high voltage as it is proportional to current?
 
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Air said:
...And high voltage as it is proportional to current?
It isn't quite that simple, it would depend on the structure of the circuit.

It would perhaps be prudent to mention that the majority of shorts are not Ohmic conductors, since a very large current flows that short (wire) usually heats up very quickly and therefore there is a non-linear relationship between V, R and I.
 
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