Watts to heat in soldering iron tip

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the appropriate wattage for soldering irons to effectively reach the melting point of solder while minimizing oxidation of the tips. Participants explore factors affecting temperature control, heat input, and the relationship between wattage and tip longevity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that rapidly oxidizing tips may indicate excessive voltage and questions whether the soldering iron has a variable temperature setting.
  • Another participant explains that while wattage indicates heat input, the actual temperature depends on heat loss factors such as the iron's design and environmental conditions.
  • It is proposed that the ideal soldering iron would have high wattage with temperature feedback control, although many users may not have such equipment.
  • A participant describes their method of adjusting power settings based on the type of soldering task and materials, emphasizing that the correct temperature is subjective and varies by situation.
  • Concerns are raised about the importance of tinning the soldering iron tip to prevent oxidation, with suggestions to ensure proper coating before idle periods.
  • A request for more information about the specific make and model of the soldering iron and tips used is made to better understand the issue.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the relationship between wattage, temperature, and tip oxidation, indicating that there is no consensus on the ideal settings or methods for soldering. Multiple competing views remain regarding the best practices for maintaining soldering iron tips.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that factors such as the specific soldering iron model, the type of tips used, and individual soldering techniques may significantly influence outcomes, but these variables are not fully explored in the discussion.

IsVictor
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Hello,
I have problem. I'm haveing my soldering iron tips oxidize very fast. I need to know what wattage to use to get melting point of solder. I think I'm overheating my tips. The melting point of the solder I have is 221C (430F). Is there a formula to calculate temperature from wattage input?

Thank you.
 
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Rapidly oxidising tips do suggest voltage may be excessive. Does your iron's controller have a variable temperature setting?

Can you post a photo of the iron here, or give a link to a web site?

Some are designed to run very hot in order to get the job done quickly, the trade-off being an acknowledged shortened tip life.
 
The wattage tells you the rate of heat input. But it is difficult to know the rate of heat output. The temperature will depend on the balance.
The rate of heat loss will depend on the size, shape and materials of the iron, as well as the environment in which you are working.

You could experiment to determine the rate of heat loss, but how would that help, if you can't vary the input wattage? If the wattage of your iron is too high and you buy a lower wattage iron,, but it's rate of cooling could be different
If you can vary the input power, then simply adjust it to give the right temperature, or at least, a temperature which makes you happy.

The ideal iron, IMO, would have a very high wattage and be controlled by temperature feedback. But if you had an iron with this, you probably wouldn't be asking the question. I don't have such an iron, so I provide the feedback manually.

IMO there is not a single temperature that is right for everybody, for all irons, for all circumstances. The temperature you need is above the solder MP, such that the tip does not fall below the MP during the soldering operation. The power you need is that which will return the tip to this temperature between soldering operations. If the desired recovery time is short, you need higher power. For casual use, you can tolerate a longer recovery time and so lower power. If you use a high power then reduce your rate of soldering, the iron temperature will increase.

When I set up, I set a low power until I am ready to get soldering. Then put it up to high until it is hot enough - melting solder v.quickly while I'm washing the tip in solder - and then throttle back to a working setting, based on experience. That level depends on the materials you are soldering. 0.5mm wire to a 2mm pad needs a lower temperature (or smaller iron) than 16 gauge wire to 5mm tag. Three transistor wires are going to cool the iron less than a 28 pin dip holder. Since I normally solder only a few joints at a time, I lower the power between spells of activity, then raise it again when I'm ready to recommence.

The only way I can judge the correct temperature is by the immediacy of the solder melting, the flow of solder over the joint and the appearance of the finished joint. I have no idea what the number of degrees is.

As for the tip oxidising, my suspicion is that you may not be tinning the iron well. If the tip is well coated in solder, that should protect the iron, even if overheated for a long time. If you initially do tin the iron well, try ensuring that you give it a wipe and recoat it well before leaving it idle.
 
IsVictor said:
I'm haveing my soldering iron tips oxidize very fast.
What make and model soldering iron do you use ?
What tips do you use ?
 

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