Wave function of a particle in a infinite well.

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The discussion revolves around the wave function of a particle in an infinite potential well, focusing on the normalization of the wave function and the calculation of the constant A. Participants are exploring the mathematical aspects of the problem, particularly integrals involving trigonometric functions.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of u-substitution in integrals and the evaluation of trigonometric integrals. There is a focus on ensuring the normalization condition for the wave function is met, with some questioning the correctness of previous calculations and assumptions.

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There is an ongoing exchange of ideas regarding the correct approach to the integral involved in normalizing the wave function. Some participants have provided guidance on using integral tables and u-substitution, while others express confusion about their previous calculations. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify misunderstandings without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Participants mention the use of calculators and integral tables, indicating a reliance on computational tools while grappling with the underlying mathematical concepts. There is acknowledgment of previous errors in calculations and assumptions, suggesting a learning process is underway.

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Originally posted by Tom
What you did wrong was take the answer off a calculator.

Do a u-substitution:

u=(π/L)x
du=(π/L)dx

then look up ∫sin2(u)du in an integral table. Don't forget to evaluate it at each limit.

You're not understading:

Let me give you all my work to alleaviate any confusion.

Show that A = (2/L)1/2

&psi(x) = A Sin(&pi x/L)

&psi2(x) = A2 Sin2(&pi x/L)

[inte]0L &psi2dx = 1

A2[inte]0L Sin2(&pi x/L) dx = 1

Actually...


I forgot to resubsitute...

BTW: I only use a calculator/computer to check my work.

Thanks...
 
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Originally posted by frankR
1 = A2[1/2L - 1/4Sin[2L]]

First, you must have done something wrong because you should get:

1=A2(L/2)

(I know for a fact that A=(2/L)1/2).

How the heck do I find A?

Ordinary algebra. Once you do the integral correctly and get

A2(L/2)=1

just multiply by 2/L and take the square root.
 
Yeah, that's what my fancy calculator told me, so what the heck did I do wrong?!
 
Originally posted by frankR
Yeah, that's what my fancy calculator told me, so what the heck did I do wrong?!

What you did wrong was take the answer off a calculator.

Do a u-substitution:

u=(π/L)x
du=(π/L)dx

then look up ∫sin2(u)du in an integral table. Don't forget to evaluate it at each limit.
 
See my original post: I'm [zz)]
 
Originally posted by frankR
You're not understading:

Pardon, but I think I am. :)

Let me give you all my work to alleaviate any confusion.

Show that A = (2/L)1/2

&psi(x) = A Sin(&pi x/L)

&psi2(x) = A2 Sin2(&pi x/L)

[inte]0L &psi2dx = 1

A2[inte]0L Sin2(&pi x/L) dx = 1

Yes, I assumed all of that. The problem is that the answer you posted:

1 = A2[1/2L - 1/4Sin[2L]]

is not right, even prior to substitution. Like I said, try it with a u-substitution and an integral table.

edit: fixed quote bracket
 
I worked out all of the kinks. I was wrong.

I found:

1 = L/&pi A2[1/2&pi]

The integral was more challenging than I thought.

Thanks for your help.

I would of never thought of the u substitution, I haven't done that sort of thing since Calculus II.
 

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