What are the different ways to control a wind turbine

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the various methods for controlling wind turbines, focusing on both theoretical and practical aspects. Participants explore different control techniques applicable to both small-scale and large-scale turbines, including sensor-based and sensorless approaches.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions the theoretical aspects of controlling wind turbines through blade pitch, speed, and yaw adjustments, and questions the practical implementation of these methods, particularly regarding PI or PID control.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of a furling tail for small-scale turbines, explaining how it operates without sensors by turning the turbine perpendicular to the wind at a critical wind speed, although this results in no power generation when out of the wind.
  • A participant expresses interest in exploring various control methods beyond their current project, seeking additional techniques and buzzwords related to both sensor and sensorless control for different turbine scales.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the existence of multiple control methods for wind turbines, but the discussion remains open with various competing views and techniques being explored without a consensus on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the limitations of existing theoretical resources and the desire for more practical insights into wind turbine control methods, indicating a gap in accessible information on advanced techniques.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in wind turbine technology, control systems, and renewable energy applications may find this discussion relevant.

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I understand that in theory one can adjust the blade pitch or the speed or the yaw to control a wind turbine. Every time I do a search on turbine control this is all I come across. However I want to ask the question at a more "actual" level. What actually happens.
Do they use PI control? Measure the wind and calculate a setpoint and just use PI or PID control to follow it?

In my project I am doing sensorless control. And I had learned a little about how they might program a turbine to check what the power is now, increase slightly, check the power again, decrease below its original startpoint, check again, then compare all three, Pick the best, remain there for a length of time, repeat.
This was for yaw i believe. But I don't see why it wouldn't work for the speed.

But basically the reason I'm asking here is what other methods exist? What different ideas are popular in the field? for small scale and large scale? with or without sensors. I would like to find out about any of the techniques.

Everytime I google wind turbine control or maximum power point tracking I come across introductory theoretical explanations. Even if someone could just give me some buzzwords to google I'll do it myself.
 
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For small scale turbines you can use a Furling tail. It's designed so that at a critical wind speed the wind force on the tail exceeds its weight and lifts it upwards. This results in the turbine turning perpendicular to wind direction. This is sensor-less but it when it turns out of the wind, power won't be generated.

Does that help?
 
For small scale turbines you can use a Furling tail. It's designed so that at a critical wind speed the wind force on the tail exceeds its weight and lifts it upwards. This results in the turbine turning perpendicular to wind direction. This is sensor-less but it when it turns out of the wind, power won't be generated.

Does that help?
 
Yes that's perfect. More of that. i want to look at methods outside of my project too. So sensors or sensorless, and small or large. thanks for that
 

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