What are the phase factors for the atoms in this quantum state?

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The discussion focuses on determining the quantum state of a source of pre-selected atoms measured in a Stern-Gerlach apparatus, with probabilities of spin-up results given as 5/6 in the x-direction, 5/6 in the y-direction, and 1/3 in the z-direction. The user initially calculated the probability amplitudes as |α|² = 1/3 and |β|² = 2/3, but was confused about the necessity of measuring in all three directions to account for the complex phase factors. The correct representation of the state includes these phase factors, expressed as α = e^(iφ) cos(x) and β = e^(iψ) sin(x), which are essential for a complete description of the quantum state.

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Homework Statement



Assume there is a source of some pre-selected atoms. When measuring atoms of that source in a Stern-Gerlach, you find the following probabilities for a spin-up result:

x-direction 5/6
y-direction 5/6
z-direction 1/3

Which state would you ascribe to the source?

Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution



Let the atoms be:

\[ \left( \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> \alpha \\<br /> \beta \end{array} \right)\]

Decomposing in the z-basis we get that the probability amplitudes for up and down are |\alpha|^2 and |\beta|^2, respectively.

From this we find that \alpha = 1/\sqrt{3} and \beta = \sqrt{2/3}

Ok this is where I am confused, my textbook says we need to do a measurement in all 3 directions, but I got these values with just the z result?

If someone could explain this to me itd be a big help, I am stuck :(
 
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phil ess said:

Homework Statement



Assume there is a source of some pre-selected atoms. When measuring atoms of that source in a Stern-Gerlach, you find the following probabilities for a spin-up result:

x-direction 5/6
y-direction 5/6
z-direction 1/3

Which state would you ascribe to the source?

Homework Equations



?

The Attempt at a Solution



Let the atoms be:

\[ \left( \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> \alpha \\<br /> \beta \end{array} \right)\]

Decomposing in the z-basis we get that the probability amplitudes for up and down are |\alpha|^2 and |\beta|^2, respectively.

From this we find that \alpha = 1/\sqrt{3} and \beta = \sqrt{2/3}

Ok this is where I am confused, my textbook says we need to do a measurement in all 3 directions, but I got these values with just the z result?

If someone could explain this to me itd be a big help, I am stuck :(
Be careful, you have not actually found α and β. You have found |α| and |β|. There is a complex phase factor still to be accounted for.
 
Hmmm, ok well what I have here is, if |a|2 + |b|2 = 1, then |a|2 - |b|2 is a number between 1 and -1, so we write:

|a|2 - |b|2 = cos 2x, where x is between 0 and pi/2

then

|a|2 = 1/2 (|a|2 + |b|2) + 1/2 (|a|2 - |b|2)
|a|2 = 1/2 + 1/2 (cos 2x) = cos2x

and similarly

|b|2 = sin2x

so then

\alpha = e^i^\varphi cos x
\beta = e^i^\phi sinx

and then these are the phase factors you are talking about? I know they have magnitude 1, but I am not sure I know how to proceed from here :S
 

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