What did I do wrong? 2 tests questions ( work and force questions )

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To calculate the work needed to launch a 100-kg object to a height of 2,000 kilometers, the potential energy formula (mgh) is insufficient due to the significant altitude, requiring a more complex gravitational potential energy equation. The user initially calculated 1.96 x 10^9 joules but was advised that this approach is only valid for small height changes relative to Earth's radius. For the second question regarding the maximum force exerted by a 10-kg person jumping on a mattress with a spring constant of 4.3 kN/m, the calculations were questioned due to potential misinterpretation of the spring constant and the equations used. The correct method involves analyzing the sinusoidal motion to derive acceleration and force accurately. Clarification on units and the equations used is essential to resolve the misunderstandings in both problems.
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Homework Statement


1 question: How much work must be done to launch a 100-kg object to a height of 2 x 10^3 kilometer above the Earth's surface?

2.A person with the mass of 10 kg jumps up and down on her mattress with a spring constant of 4.3 nK.m. She does this by applying a sinusoidal force at a frequency of 1 Hz. Assuming no dampening force exists, if her amplitude is 3 cm, what is the maximum force she places on the mattress?

by the way, these are the only one I completely missed. He took off the maximum amount : ( And I still have no idea how to solve them. So I'm just wondering.

The Attempt at a Solution


1 question ( my attempt ) - okay, first I thought I would use the Vesc equation, but I simply got velocity out of it and I didn't know how to go from velocity to work. Then I had the idea, I would simply use the fact work is independent of the path and work = the change in potential energy
so mgh = work thus, 100kg x 9.8m/s^2 x 2x10^6 mThus, I got 1.96 x 10^9 joules. Now, I knew this was too simply to be right, but I am still confused why this is the case. Why can't I use the fact work equals the change in potential energy in this case?

2 question: I used the equation A = (Fsmall o / m) /( w^2 - wsmall o ^2) and solved for w^2. then used the fact the max acceleration = Aw^2. Then to get the force. I simply used F=ma. and got 13N
So, why is this wrong? I'm pretty sure, I converted to all the correct units. But, again, I thought this was too easy. Did I use an equation that wasn't applicable?

Thanks in advance!
 
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polarbearkids said:

Homework Statement


1 question: How much work must be done to launch a 100-kg object to a height of 2 x 10^3 kilometer above the Earth's surface?

2.A person with the mass of 10 kg jumps up and down on her mattress with a spring constant of 4.3 nK.m. She does this by applying a sinusoidal force at a frequency of 1 Hz. Assuming no dampening force exists, if her amplitude is 3 cm, what is the maximum force she places on the mattress?

by the way, these are the only one I completely missed. He took off the maximum amount : ( And I still have no idea how to solve them. So I'm just wondering.

The Attempt at a Solution


1 question ( my attempt ) - okay, first I thought I would use the Vesc equation, but I simply got velocity out of it and I didn't know how to go from velocity to work. Then I had the idea, I would simply use the fact work is independent of the path and work = the change in potential energy
so mgh = work thus, 100kg x 9.8m/s^2 x 2x10^6 mThus, I got 1.96 x 10^9 joules. Now, I knew this was too simply to be right, but I am still confused why this is the case. Why can't I use the fact work equals the change in potential energy in this case?
P.E.=mgΔh is only valid for the approximation that $$Δh<<R_{earth}$$
You need to use ##ΔU=-Gm1m2/R^2##
 
polarbearkids said:
2.A person with the mass of 10 kg jumps up and down on her mattress with a spring constant of 4.3 nK.m.


What kind of spring constant is that? Do you mean 4.3 N/m??
 
If the amplitude is 3 cm, and the frequency is 1 Hz, then represent the displacement at time t by:

x = 3 sin(2πt) (cm)
With this representation of the displacement, what is the velocity v in cm/sec?
What is the acceleration a in cm/sec2?
 
rude man said:
What kind of spring constant is that? Do you mean 4.3 N/m??

Yup. sorry! kN/m kiloNewtons per meter
 
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