What Factors Cause a Car to Skid on a Circular Track with Kinetic Friction?

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The discussion revolves around the factors that cause a car to skid while traveling on a circular track with kinetic friction. Participants explore the relationship between centripetal force and friction in the context of circular motion.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conditions under which a car skids, particularly focusing on the balance between centripetal force and frictional force. There is an exploration of the implications of using static versus kinetic friction in this context.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing insights about the forces at play in a level unbanked curve. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between velocity and friction, but there is no explicit consensus on the final interpretation of the conditions for skidding.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted distinction between static and kinetic friction in the context of the problem, which may influence the understanding of the skidding condition. The discussion is framed around a general question rather than a specific homework problem.

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Homework Statement


This isn't a problem from a textbook or homework but just a general question.

Say there's a car traveling in a circle and that the track has some coefficient of kinetic friction µ. What would make the car skid?

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I'm thinking that it skids when the centripetal is greater than the friction force? Not sure why but that's just my intuition.
 
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If it is a level unbanked road, the centripetal force is the static friction force. What does that tell you about when the car will skid?
 
That actually makes sense because on a level curve the friction and centripetal forces are the only ones pointing to the center.

Then I suppose it would be when the velocity of the car is greater than \sqrt{µgr}?
 
Nishikino Maki said:
That actually makes sense because on a level curve the friction and centripetal forces are the only ones pointing to the center.
the friction force is the centripetal force.
Then I suppose it would be when the velocity of the car is greater than \sqrt{µgr}?
yes, where u is the coefficient of static friction, not kinetic friction.
 

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