What is its rotational kinetic energy?

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The problem involves a system consisting of two balls of different masses connected by a rigid rod, rotating about its center of mass at a specified angular velocity. The subject area includes rotational dynamics and kinetic energy calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the need to find the center of mass of the system and calculate the moment of inertia for each ball about that center. There are questions regarding the appropriate formulas for moment of inertia and kinetic energy, as well as the requirement for the radius of the balls.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning assumptions and clarifying the necessary steps. Some guidance has been provided regarding the formulas needed, but there is no explicit consensus on the final approach yet.

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There are mentions of potential missing information, such as the radius of each ball, which may affect the calculations. Additionally, there is a correction regarding the formula for rotational kinetic energy that participants are considering.

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Homework Statement


A 240g ball and a 570g ball are connected by a 48.0-cm-long massless, rigid rod. The structure rotates about its center of mass at 110 rpm.



Homework Equations


KE = Iω^2
I = 1/12(mr^2)


The Attempt at a Solution


Since it has two masses and two different radius, I was not sure with what I should've done.
 
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Elleboys said:

Homework Statement


A 240g ball and a 570g ball are connected by a 48.0-cm-long massless, rigid rod. The structure rotates about its center of mass at 110 rpm.



Homework Equations


KE = Iω^2
I = 1/12(mr^2)


The Attempt at a Solution


Since it has two masses and two different radius, I was not sure with what I should've done.

Where did your formula for the moment of inertia come from? That doesn't look like the moment of inertia of a solid sphere (ball) to me.

To do this problem, you need the radius of each ball. Are you given this?

The first step is to find the common centre of mass (COM) of the system. Do you know how to do that?

The next step is to calculate the moment of inertia of the system about that common COM. This can be done by summing up the moments of each ball. Remember to use the right formula and remember the parallel axis theorem.

The final step to find the rotational KE is trivial. But you should note that even your formula for rotational KE is wrong (missing a factor of 0.5).
 
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Curious3141 said:
Where did your formula for the moment of inertia come from? That doesn't look like the moment of inertia of a solid sphere (ball) to me.

To do this problem, you need the radius of each ball. Are you given this?

The first step is to find the common centre of mass (COM) of the system. Do you know how to do that?

The next step is to calculate the moment of inertia of the system about that common COM. This can be done by summing up the moments of each ball. Remember to use the right formula and remember the parallel axis theorem.

The final step to find the rotational KE is trivial. But you should note that even your formula for rotational KE is wrong (missing a factor of 0.5).

OHHHHH I see
And yes I put wrong formula for I.
So I believe that I need to find a center of mass, get moment of inertia of each particle about that COM, add them up and it will give me net moment of inertia.
And by using KE = Iω^2, I can get the answer.
Am I on the right track?
 
Elleboys said:
And by using KE = Iω^2, I can get the answer.
Am I on the right track?

You still need to add the 0.5 on front of your formula for KE like Curious3141 said. KE = 0.5Iω^2
 
Elleboys said:
OHHHHH I see
And yes I put wrong formula for I.
So I believe that I need to find a center of mass, get moment of inertia of each particle about that COM, add them up and it will give me net moment of inertia.
And by using KE = Iω^2, I can get the answer.
Am I on the right track?

Yes, you're on the right track (except that ##K = \frac{1}{2}I\omega^2##). Work through it systematically.
 

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