What is the largest value of Fw the cords can withstand?

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The discussion centers on determining the maximum weight (Fw) that cords can support, given that each cord can withstand a maximum tension of 80N. The equations presented include components for both the x and y directions, but an initial assumption that both tensions (Ft1 and Ft2) are equal to 80N leads to an incorrect conclusion. It is emphasized that only one cord may reach the maximum tension while the other must be calculated based on equilibrium conditions. The correct approach involves solving for one tension in terms of the other to accurately determine Fw. Ultimately, the solution requires careful consideration of the forces involved to avoid non-equilibrium scenarios.
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Homework Statement



Cords can withstand a maximum tension of 80N. What is the largest value of Fw they can support?

Homework Equations



Ft1 and Ft2 are 80.

FsysX = Ft1 sin 60 + Ft2 sin 70, but x doesn't matter

Fsys Y = Ft1 cos 60 + Ft2 cos 70 - Fw

The Attempt at a Solution



80 cos 60 + 80 cos 70 - Fw
Fw= 40+ 27
Fw = 67, when it should be 55.
 

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badhorserides said:

Homework Statement



Cords can withstand a maximum tension of 80N. What is the largest value of Fw they can support?

Homework Equations



Ft1 and Ft2 are 80.

FsysX = Ft1 sin 60 + Ft2 sin 70, but x doesn't matter (It does matter.)

Fsys Y = Ft1 cos 60 + Ft2 cos 70 - Fw

The Attempt at a Solution



80 cos 60 + 80 cos 70 - Fw
Fw= 40+ 27
Fw = 67, when it should be 55.

It's a mistake for you to assume that both F1 and F2 are equal to 80 N. That will lead to a non-equilibrium condition in the x-direction.

Probably only one of them will be at the maximum value. You should be able to solve for Fw in terms of F1 or F2 .
 
SammyS said:
It's a mistake for you to assume that both F1 and F2 are equal to 80 N. That will lead to a non-equilibrium condition in the x-direction.

Probably only one of them will be at the maximum value. You should be able to solve for Fw in terms of F1 or F2 .


So I should say, for example, T1 is going to be equal to 80, solve for T2 in the X direction using that, then use those to solve for the weight.

I'll try it! Thank you!
 
Yes, you can try that. It may turn out that doing this gives you that T2 > 80 N, in which case you will need to assume that T2 = 80N.
 
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