What is the recommended maximum deflection for a bicycle frame test using FEA?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the recommended maximum deflection for a bicycle frame during testing using Finite Element Analysis (FEA) in ABAQUS. Participants are exploring the appropriate criteria for vertical deflection under a specified static load, which is intended to simulate laboratory conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant is seeking guidance on the maximum allowable deflection for a bicycle frame test, noting a static load of 4G*120kg.
  • Another participant suggests searching for references on bicycle frame analysis, although the original poster finds these unhelpful.
  • An1MuS proposes an initial guess of 1.5 mm for the maximum allowable vertical deflection, suggesting a range of 0.15 to 1.5 mm, and invites feedback from experts on this estimate.
  • An1MuS also recommends comparing the proposed deflection criteria with results from testing known stiff and flexible frames to establish bounds for allowable deflection.
  • A link to a bicycle lab report is provided as a potential resource for further information.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the maximum allowable deflection, as participants have differing views and suggestions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the appropriate criteria for deflection.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not clarify the assumptions behind the proposed deflection values or the specific conditions of the frame test. There is also a lack of established benchmarks or references that participants can agree upon.

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I'm working on a group project where we test a bicycle frame on ABAQUS.

The test is as follow

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Where F is a static load. It was suggested for us to consider it as 4G*120kg to simulate a laboratory test. We're having a hard time knowing what is the maximum deflection (or stifness) we should allow.

I can't find any tests like this, or websites where i could get that information. Does anyone have any idea?
 
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Google 'bicycle frame analysis' and you will get many suggestions and references.
 
I did and i won't get any of use for this case, but thanks for the suggestion. :)
 
An1MuS: I currently would guess the vertical deflection in your above frame test will be quite low, perhaps less than 2 mm. I currently would guess, initially use 1.5 mm as your current maximum allowable vertical deflection criterion, and see how it goes. My current guess for the range of good values would be 0.15 to 1.5 mm (?). I.e., in this current guess, the maximum allowable vertical deflection would be ymax = 1.5 mm.

And then if someone with expertise in this particular vertical deflection load case sees this thread, then they could advise whether my guessed maximum allowable vertical deflection value (ymax), or allowable deflection range, should be modified.

How would the 1.5 mm criterion, or the proposed range I stated above (0.15 to 1.5 mm), compare to some of your current deflection results? Also, you could, e.g., make your frame like a good, existing frame, and then see what vertical deflection value you obtain. And then post the results, so we can start comparing it to the proposed deflection criterion, to see if we are in the correct ball park. Do this for a good, known, stiff frame, to establish the lower allowable deflection (ymin) bound. Then do it again for a good, known, very flexible frame, to establish the upper allowable deflection (ymax) bound.
 
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http://www.justinreina.com/portfolio/ME%20354%20-%20Bicycle%20lab.pdf
 
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