What to solve for in specific heat energy problem

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The discussion revolves around a calorimetric experiment designed to measure the energy output of cells when a nutrient is introduced. The original poster expresses uncertainty about what specific values or relationships they need to solve for within the context of energy transfer between the calorimeter and its surroundings.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between energy output and input, with one suggesting that the energy output can be equated to the power of the resistor. Questions arise regarding the proportionality factor for heat transfer and how to account for energy loss to the surroundings.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the relationships between energy output, input, and the parameters involved in the calorimetry setup. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correct for energy loss, and the original poster is seeking feedback on their reasoning and calculations.

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The original poster mentions confusion regarding what specific comparisons or calculations are necessary for their problem, indicating a need for clarification on the principles of energy transfer and measurement in their experimental setup.

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You have a position working with a group investigating biological mechanisms that
determine a predisposition to obesity. Your assignment is to measure the rate that
energy is output by certain types of cells when a nutrient is introduced. To begin this
study, you have decided to use a calorimetric technique. A culture of cells with the
appropriate nutrient is placed inside a closed container. That container is submerged in
a water bath and you measure the rate that the temperature of the bath changes.
To calibrate the apparatus, you decide to use a resistor connected across a known
voltage as a power source. You know that the power output by the resistor is just the
current through the resistor times the voltage across the resistor. You then will
compare that power to the rate that the internal energy of the water bath changes by
measuring its temperature as a function of time. To accomplish this calibration, you
calculate the rate of temperature change as a function of the voltage across the resistor,
the current through the resistor, the specific heat of the water, and the mass of the
water. You know that even with good insulation, your apparatus will transfer some
energy to the outside and your measurements will allow you to correct for this.


So I am honestly not sure what I am trying to solve for. I know that we are measuring energy output and that a resistor is used as a power source and I believe it is water we are measuring in terms of a transfer in energy from the system into the surronding environment. However, I'm confused as to what I'm specifically trying to solve for? What is it that I need to compare and look for in this problem? Any input is appreciated.
 
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The calorimeter loses energy by transferring heat to the surroundings at a rate proportional to the temperature difference between the calorimeter and the surroundings. You need to find that proportionality factor (heat transfer coefficient might be the name). Also, the calorimeter has its own heat capacity. When measuring temperature versus time with a given input power, you can determine both parameters.

ehild
 
So I believe I found a proportionality. Because the problem tells me that energy output can be determined by the power of the resistor and that energy input is determined as a function of temperature change over time of the water bath, energy input and energy output of the system are equivalent. I showed my work for this problem on the attached document. If someone could look at it to see if I'm on the right track with solving it, that would be appreciated.
 

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Just wanted to bump this up to see if anyone could look at my work from my previous post to the problem that I posted above. It'd be really appreciated, thanks!
 
I can not read docx files. Type in your solution.

ehild
 
Solution I came up with:



Efinal-Einitial = Eoutput-Einput
Efinal = 0
Einitial = 0
0 = Eoutput - Einput
Einput = Eoutput
Eoutput = Power of Resistor = Voltage (V) x Current (I)
dEoutput/dt = (mwater)(cwater)dT/dt
Power = (mwater)(cwater)dT/dt
Mwater = mass of water
Cwater = specific heat of water
∆Twater = change in temperature of water
 
To accomplish this calibration, you
calculate the rate of temperature change as a function of the voltage across the resistor,
the current through the resistor, the specific heat of the water, and the mass of the
water. You know that even with good insulation, your apparatus will transfer some
energy to the outside and your measurements will allow you to correct for this.

How do you do this correction for loss of energy? ehild
 

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