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The discussion centers around the concept of a "faux guru" award in a political forum, focusing on individuals who are perceived as being particularly knowledgeable or skilled in debate, making them formidable opponents. Participants express the idea that the award should not be about fear of engaging in arguments but rather about recognizing those who provide the best solutions and recommendations on political issues. There is a reflection on the nature of disputation, emphasizing the importance of using facts and logic in debates rather than merely schooling others. The conversation also touches on the Nobel Peace Prize, questioning its relevance and the criteria for awarding it, with references to past laureates who have genuinely contributed to peace. Overall, the thread highlights a desire for constructive discourse rather than adversarial encounters in political discussions.
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Who should get the faux guru award for the political forum? Who is the one person that you do NOT want to tangle with because you will end up getting schooled in the end with facts and logical argument?
 
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gravenewworld said:
Who should get the faux guru award for the political forum? Who is the one person that you do NOT want to tangle with because you will end up getting schooled in the end with facts and logical argument?
We have someone like that here? :confused:
 
Evo said:
We have someone like that here? :confused:
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I'm sorry I come off that way. I will try to soften up in the future. Anyway, I get schooled with the facts and with logic pretty often too. When it happens, I disengage.
 
jimmysnyder said:
I'm sorry I come off that way. I will try to soften up in the future. Anyway, I get schooled with the facts and with logic pretty often too. When it happens, I disengage.
Jimmy, my comment was a commendation. Actually, it probably doesn't look to good. I didn't mean to infer that one schools others in use of facts and logic.

I was thinking more in the frame of using/applying facts and logic (which is the proper means of disputation), rather than schooling opponents in fact and logic.

disputation -
1 : the action of disputing : verbal controversy <continuous disputation between them> <ideological disputations>
2 : an academic exercise in oral defense of a thesis by formal logic

I would be pleased to retract my vote.
 
It's no biggie, but I don't want the reputation of being "the one person that you do NOT want to tangle with" for any reason. Probably I could do more at my end to alleviate this problem.
 
The Nobel Prize is for peace, not for politics. The award should not be "who you don't want to argue with because you're scared of arguing them" but "who has the best solutions and recommendations given a particular issue".
 
Can anyone remember the last Nobel prize given for actual peace?
 
2005?

EDIT: I don't know if you're just selectively trying to "remember" controversial Nobel Peace Prizes, though I don't blame you because those the only ones that make it to the media headlines.
 
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Can anyone remember the last Nobel prize given for actual peace?

Back to '78 Sadat/Begin before getting some real peace prizes.
'76 Williams/Corrigan - N. Ireland
'64 M. L. King
'53 Marshall

Couple of the groups are worthy but I favor individuals.
 

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