Why Can Volume Be Used Instead of Specific Volume in PV Diagrams?

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The discussion centers on the use of volume instead of specific volume in the equation for net work in PV diagrams, specifically in the context of an ideal gas. Participants express confusion about the omission of mass (m) in the equation W=R*T*ln(Vb/Va), suggesting it should include m, leading to W=m*R*T*ln(Vb/Va). Clarifications indicate that the incorrect formula is not used in calculations, and the omission may stem from a typo in the reference material. Additionally, the use of a slash through the V's is explained as a means to differentiate between volume and specific volume, which initially caused confusion. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of clarity in thermodynamic equations and the potential for typographical errors in educational resources.
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1. Problem Statement

The problem asks to find the net work from one complete cycle A-B-C. Problem 13, starting on page 66 of the slide show here:

https://engineering.purdue.edu/~xe/Files/FE%20Review/Thermo/FEThermoReview2013.pdf

Homework Equations


ideal gas law: PV=mRT
Boyle's Law: W=RTln(v2/v1)

3. Attempt at solution

I understand most of the solution, but on page 67, says that W=R*T*ln(Vb/Va) is equivalent to W=p*Va*ln(Vb/Va), assuming ideal gas and constant mass. I don't understand why you can use volume here instead of specific volume.

From the ideal gas law: PV=mRT and RT=PV/m. So I thought it should be W=p*Va/m*ln(Vb/Va). Why can we eliminate m here?

Thank you!
 
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There should be an m in the equation W=R*T*ln(Vb/Va). It should read W=m*R*T*ln(Vb/Va).
 
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What's wrong is "W = RT ln(Vb/Va)". It should be W = mRT ln(Vb/Va).
Notice that the wrong formula is never used in the computations.

P.S. why do they put a slash thru the V's?
 
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One equation for isothermal work is W = m*R*T* ln(Vb/Vb). He has either made a mistake by omitting the number of moles or he has calculated the heat for 1 mole.
 
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Thanks for the responses. Good to know I'm not crazy.

Chestermiller said:
There should be an m in the equation W=R*T*ln(Vb/Va). It should read W=m*R*T*ln(Vb/Va).

In the reference material for the fundamentals of engineering exam, the formula also does not include mass. I guess its a typo. Maybe that's where the author of the presentation got the formula from.

rude man said:
P.S. why do they put a slash thru the V's?

I think it is to differentiate between volume and specific volume. It confused me at first though.
 
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