Why does atom's attraction to electron increase in periods ?

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The discussion centers on the reasons behind the increasing attraction of the nucleus to the outermost electron as one moves across a period in the periodic table. Participants explore concepts related to atomic structure, electrostatic forces, and the implications of adding protons and electrons in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the increased positive charge from additional protons is effectively divided among the electrons, suggesting that this could mean the attraction remains constant.
  • Another participant argues that the electrostatic force experienced by an electron from the nucleus increases with the number of protons, and this force does not diminish with the addition of electrons.
  • A reference from an A-level chemistry book is cited, which states that the loss of electrons in a positive ion results in remaining electrons having a greater share of the positive charge, implying a division of force among electrons.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the accuracy of the book's explanation, labeling it as misleading and suggesting that the concept of "sharing" the force is incorrect.
  • There is a discussion about the repulsive forces between electrons and how removing an electron allows remaining electrons to be drawn closer to the nucleus, while the attraction to the nucleus remains unchanged.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the electrostatic forces at play, particularly regarding the concept of force division among electrons. There is no consensus on the accuracy of the textbook explanation, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential misunderstandings in the textbook's explanation and the implications of atomic structure on ionic radii, but no definitive resolution is reached regarding the nature of the forces involved.

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Why does the nucleus' attraction to the outermost electron increase across a period?
I have been told that this is because each time you go across a period one step to the right, you add one proton and so there is more positive charge, but isn't it true that you also add one electron ? and so the positive charge even though it has increased is divided between more electrons and so the attraction of electrons by the nucleus stays the same ?
This could only mean that the positive charge's attraction to each electron is not divided, but this defies what my a level book says.
thanks in advance
 
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You're correct, it is not divided.

The electrostatic force a single charge like an electron "feels" from the nucleus increases with the number of protons, and it doesn't decrease as you add more electrons in the same way as the force of Earth's gravity on a single person doesn't decrease as you add more people.

KingCrimson said:
but this defies what my a level book says.
There's probably some misunderstanding there. Can you quote what your book says?
 
Page 75 Edexcel AS chemistry bob fullick and ann mcduel
"A positive ion always has a smaller ionic radius than the original atom, This is because the loss of electron/s means that the remaining electrons each have a greater (share) of the positive charge of the nucleus so are more tightly bound"
they say Share as if the force is divided between electrons.
 
This looks like a blunder to me, but you better wait for other members to voice their opinions.
 
Are you discussing atoms, ions, ionization potential, or electron affinity?
 
KingCrimson said:
Page 75 Edexcel AS chemistry bob fullick and ann mcduel
"A positive ion always has a smaller ionic radius than the original atom, This is because the loss of electron/s means that the remaining electrons each have a greater (share) of the positive charge of the nucleus so are more tightly bound"
they say Share as if the force is divided between electrons.

That's a completely awful wrong terrible somewhat misleading explanation, but it is true that (all else being the same) a positive ion has a smaller diameter than the corresponding neutral atom. The force between the electrons is repulsive, so tends to force the electrons away from one another and outwards. When we remove one electron this force becomes smaller while the attraction to the nucleus remains the same, so the remaining electrons can settle in a bit closer.
 
Nugatory said:
That's a completely awful wrong terrible somewhat misleading explanation, but it is true that (all else being the same) a positive ion has a smaller diameter than the corresponding neutral atom. The force between the electrons is repulsive, so tends to force the electrons away from one another and outwards. When we remove one electron this force becomes smaller while the attraction to the nucleus remains the same, so the remaining electrons can settle in a bit closer.
That's a much better way of putting it. It's due to the net charge (i.e. a difference) and not the "sharing" which is a ratio effect.
 

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