Why Is the Tension Calculated Using Cosine in a Conical Pendulum Problem?

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In the discussion about the conical pendulum problem, the main focus is on understanding the tension in the wire and its components. The tension has both vertical and horizontal components, with the vertical component balancing the weight of the bob (mg) and the horizontal component providing the centripetal force necessary for circular motion. The equations derived include Tcos(θ) = mg for the vertical balance and Tsin(θ) = ma_r for the horizontal motion, leading to the relationship between tension and acceleration. The confusion arises from correctly setting up the force diagrams and understanding the role of sine and cosine in these calculations. Ultimately, the problem illustrates the importance of analyzing forces in both dimensions to solve for tension in a conical pendulum.
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Homework Statement


Consider a conical pendulum with a 89.0 kg bob on a 10.0 m wire making an angle of = 5.00° with the vertical (Fig. P6.9).

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I am having a lot of trouble figuring this out. I have tried to set up force diagrams but I am getting confused. I know that the force is the y direction is just mg but to make it this way it would have to be
Tsin(\theta) - mgsin(\theta) = 0 and I don't understand why it would be mg multiplied by the sine of the angle.
Also, for the second part I don't understand why the answer is not just mg times the sin of the angle.
Can someone help me figure out this problem? Thanks.
 
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Hi Sheneron,

I'm not certain which direction you're trying to write that equation for. However, you're right that mg is completely vertical; also, the tension has both vertical and horizontal components.

For this problem, you'll also need the acceleration (magnitude and direction). What do you get?
 
For the horizontal tension the equation I get is
Tcos(\theta) - mgsin(\theta) = 0
For vertical I get
Tsin(\theta) - mgsin(\theta) = 0

I am pretty sure those have to be the answers, but I can't see where they came from. I don't understand how to set the force diagram up.
 
Now I am very confused... ma would not equal 0 would it? To find the acceleration you would first have to know the tension, which I am having a lot of trouble on
 
ohhhhhhhh I think I got it

Tcos(\theta) - mg = 0
T = \frac{mg}{cos(\theta)}

T_y = Tcos(\theta) = \frac{mg}{cos(\theta)}cos(\theta) = mg

T_x = Tsin(\theta) = \frac{mg}{cos(\theta)}sin(\theta)

F_x = ma_r

\frac{mg}{cos(\theta)}sin(\theta) = ma_r

a_r = \frac{mgtan(\theta)}{m}
 
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