Work done by lifting block attached to spring

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done in lifting a weight attached to a spring. The spring has a specified constant, and the weight is raised a certain distance from its natural hanging position. Participants are exploring the implications of spring force and gravitational force in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are analyzing the forces acting on the weight and the spring, questioning the direction of the spring force during the lifting process. There are discussions about the integration approach used to calculate work and the potential for a typographical error in the problem statement.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing differing interpretations of the spring force's direction and the correct approach to the integral. Some guidance has been offered regarding the energy perspective, but no consensus has been reached on the correct answer or method.

Contextual Notes

There is a suggestion that the spring constant may have been misstated, which could affect the calculations. Participants are also considering the implications of the spring's natural length and how it relates to the forces involved in lifting the weight.

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If one hangs a spring (of constant 10lbs/ft) vertically and attaches a 10lb. weight to the spring, how much work is done in raising the weight 6 inches from where it hangs naturally?

i drew a free body diagram and deduced that when you are lifting the weight up, the forces of gravity and spring force act downward (since spring force always acts opposite to displacement). so my equation for force is F = mg + kx = 10 + 10x. so i took the integral of that from 0 to 1/2 and i got 6.25 ft lbs or 75 in lbs. but my book's answer is 240 in lbs. how did they get that?
 
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Spring force acts opposite to displacement from natural length.
It would still act upward opposite to gravity when you pull the block up,at least upto a feet(that's what the question says).
 
no the spring force has to be down since I'm displacing the spring upwards from its natural length. i think the problem just has a typo. it should be 10 lbs/in instead of 10 lbs/ft. then when i integrate 10+10x from 0 to 6, i get the answer as 240 in lbs.

anyways thank you for your input!
 
demonelite123 said:
no the spring force has to be down since I'm displacing the spring upwards from its natural length.
I don't believe that is correct, you are displacing it upward from its natural hanging length when the weight is on it, in its equilibrium position (that's what the problem says). So when you move the spring up 6 inches, it is still in its stretched position, so the spring force acting on the weight is up. The answer is not 240 in-lb, even if there was a typo. Throw out the book answer, and toss out the question with it. Aim 1732's response was correct.
 
oh i understand now. so would it be the integral from 0 to 1/2 of 10x-10?
 
It would be 10-10x since the force is upwards.
A better way to look at the problem is in terms of energy.Specifically,

W(non-conservative) + W(external) = Change in mechanical energy of system
 

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