Work done - moving a charge in an electric field

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The discussion focuses on calculating the work done in moving a charge in an electric field, specifically for a charge of 10 µC moving from the origin to a point in spherical coordinates. The electric field is given as E = 10r unit r + 5/(rsin(theta)) unit phi V/m, and the expected answer is -475 µJ. Participants clarify the coordinate system and discuss the conservative nature of the electric field, which implies that the path of integration does not affect the work done. Despite attempts to solve the integral, discrepancies in the results indicate potential misunderstandings in the integration process or the electric field's formulation. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly interpreting the electric field components and their implications for calculating work.
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work done -- moving a charge in an electric field

Homework Statement


Q=10uC from origin to (3m,pi/4,pi/2) E=10r unit r + 5/(rsin(theta) unit phi V/m

answer is -475uJ

I found this problem in a reference book that gave answers, this problem is similar to a homework problem.


Homework Equations



w = -q ∫ E*dl or w = 1/2 integral (εE^2) dv

The Attempt at a Solution



w= -10x10-6 ∫ 10rdr + 5d(phi)
 
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cutesteph said:

Homework Statement


Q=10uC from origin to (3m,pi/4,pi/2) E=10r unit r + 5/(rsin(theta) unit phi V/m

answer is -475uJ

I found this problem in a reference book that gave answers, this problem is similar to a homework problem.


Homework Equations



w = -q ∫ E*dl or w = 1/2 integral (εE^2) dv

The Attempt at a Solution



w= -10x10-6 ∫ 10rdr + 5d(phi)

Could you please clarify the question a bit? When you give the electric field, is that in spherical or rectangular coordinates? Would it be possible to scan the problem and upload it into this thread?
 
The problem is in spherical coordinates.

My work is w = -10x10^-6 ( 20( sqrt(exp(1) -1) +10 pi/2 = 5.736 uJ , which is incorrect from the answer in the book.
 
I am not sure what I am doing wrong, dL = dr (unit r) + r dtheta (unit theta) + r sin theta d phi (unit phi) .
E=10r (unit r) + 5/[(rsin(theta)] (unit phi) V/m

so integral of work = q * (10r dr + r phi dphi )

from origin 0,0,0 to 3, pi/4, pi /2 so r goes 0 to 2 theta goes 0 to pi/4 and phi goes 0 to pi/2
 
Are you sure about the second term in the E field expression? Because that implies an infinite E field at the origin.

Anyway, two hints:

1. the E field is conservative so what does that tell you about the path of integration?

2. You can split the E field into two fields, corresponding to the two terms, and use superposition. Then go back to hint #1.

I assume theta is the angle with the z axis and phi is the azimuth angle, and that you're giving the final position as (r, theta, phi).

(My answer is close to -475 uJ but not quite.)
 
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Since E is conservative, the path of integration does not matter.
 
cutesteph said:
Since E is conservative, the path of integration does not matter.

Right. So what path would you take for E dot dl?
 
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