X and Y identically distributed implies E(X) = E(Y) and var(X) = var(Y)

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Homework Statement
Let (S, \Sigma, P) be a probability space. Let X and Y be two random variables on S that satisfy P \circ X^{-1} = P \circ Y^{-1} (i.e. they are identically distributed) and such that E(X), E(Y), var(X) and var(Y) exist and are finite. Prove that E(X) = E(Y) and var(X) = var(Y).

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I can only think of proving this the long and tedious way: first when X and Y are simple, then for X and Y bounded, then for X and Y nonnegative, and then finally for X and Y integrable. Is there an easier way?
 
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Can you easily show X and Y have the same cdf? Then do you have a definition for E[X^n] in terms of the cdf of X?
 
Billy Bob said:
Can you easily show X and Y have the same cdf? Then do you have a definition for E[X^n] in terms of the cdf of X?
They do have the same CDF but I don't have a definition of E[Xn] in terms of the CDF of X. All I know is that

<br /> E[X^n] = \int_S X^n \, dP<br />

whenever the integral exists.
 
Do you have a theorem saying something like

\int f\, d(P\circ X^{-1})=\int (f\circ X)\, dP ?

If so then you can use f(x)=x, f(x)=x^2, or even f(x)=x^n.

If you don't have such a theorem, you could prove it. I can't see how to avoid some of the "long" method. Maybe it is shorter than you thought. I don't think you have to approximate X and Y, just the two functions f(x)=x and f(x)=x^2. If you just want to do those two cases, use (or imagine using) a specific sequence of simple (step, in fact) functions.

Maybe you can get away with observing that for f= \chi_E we have \chi_E\circ X=\chi_{X^{-1}(E)}, and then saying a magic phrase like "the result follows by linear combinations and limits." Probably not. I think it might be worth writing it out, just to verify my claim that X and Y don't need to be approximated.
 
Billy Bob said:
Do you have a theorem saying something like

\int f\, d(P\circ X^{-1})=\int (f\circ X)\, dP ?

If so then you can use f(x)=x, f(x)=x^2, or even f(x)=x^n.

If you don't have such a theorem, you could prove it.

I don't know of such a theorem. I'll try to prove that though (seems interesting).
 
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