Yield strength variation with temperature

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mathematical relationship between yield strength and temperature, specifically for various alloys of steel. Participants explore how temperature affects yield strength and seek specific correction factors for their calculations across a range of temperatures.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that yield strength generally decreases with increasing temperature, but this relationship varies by material type.
  • One participant requests clarification on the specific materials in question and whether the yield strength is being considered for fully annealed or cold-worked states.
  • A participant lists specific alloys (9CR-1MO, 410-13CR, 925 INCOLOY, 718 INCONEL) and seeks yield strength temperature correction factors for these materials at temperatures between 200°F and 800°F.
  • Another participant provides links to documents containing information on Incoloy 925 and Inconel 718, suggesting that these resources may contain relevant data.
  • There is a suggestion to use Excel for plotting data points and fitting curves to determine the relationship, but concerns are raised about the choice of fitting model (exponential, logarithmic, polynomial, etc.).
  • One participant mentions that the relationship may also depend on Young's Modulus and Poisson's ratio, expressing uncertainty about this connection.
  • A participant shares that they found equations related to factors affecting yield stress but struggles with understanding some constants in those equations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that yield strength is affected by temperature, but there is no consensus on the specific mathematical relationship or the influence of material properties such as cold work. Multiple competing views and uncertainties regarding the exact nature of these relationships remain.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific material properties, the need for clarity on whether materials are annealed or cold-worked, and unresolved mathematical steps regarding the fitting of data to determine relationships.

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anyone can help me out by providing the mathematical relationship between yield strength and temperature
 
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hi lax ... what material is in question? With respect to room temperature, 'upwards' or 'downwards'?
 
Yield strength decreases with increasing temperature, but the relationship depends on the type of material.
 
I have a few great diagrams on that topic in my strength of materials book, too bad I don't have a scanner.
 
If you tell us what materials, I am sure one of us would be able to reference a source for what you need.
 
Dear all ,
Thank You 4 replying me.
Actually I need Yield Strength Temperature Correction factor in my Calculations for following materials (Alloys of Stell) at various temperatures ranging from 200 Degree Fahrenheit to 800 Degree Farenheit:
1. 9CR-1MO (Chromium- 8-10%)
2. 410-13CR (Chromium- 12.5-13.5%)
3. 925 INCOLOY (Nickel- 42-46%)
4. 718 INCONEL (Nickel- 50-55%)
I mentioned major alloying Element in each alloy.
If You need more information about these alloys , Pl. let me know.
I'll be very greatful if any of you solve my problem.
 
The other part of the problem is the residual cold work. Are the materials in question fully annealed or cold-worked, which affects in the initial YS?
 
Inco 718 (page 1):
http://www.specialmetals.com/documents/Inconel%20alloy%20718.pdf

Inco 925 (page 1):
http://www.specialmetals.com/documents/Incoloy%20alloy%20925.pdf

I'm still trying to find something on line for the other two.
 
Thank You Fredgarvin for providing the links.
For Incoloy 925, We are able to find the variation of YS with temperature in the form of a curve in the given link.
I know that the variation is non-linear.But Cannot we find out the mathematical Relation for that, which'll be very much helpful to me.
Dear Austronac,
why don't You provide the information I asked for annealed as well as cold worked
 
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Do you have access to a program like Excel? Simply plot the points and curve fit them to get the relationship.
 
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FredGarvin,

What you told is correct but the problem is you need to select the option in which manner (Exponential,logarthmic, polynomial,etc) the variation would be while doing it in Excel.
I feel it would be correct if we know the relationship b/w Yield Strength and temperature.
As per my observation it may be dependent on Youngs Modulus and Poisson's ratio also.Iam not sure of that.Could you please think over it once again?
 
  • #12
Dear all,
I got Some info reg. factors affecting yield stress.
There I found 2 eq.in which how Yield stress is affected by temperature is given.But problem is most of the terms in those eq. are constants, which Iam unable to understand.

You can find this info on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yield_(engineering)

Pl. go through it n let me know if you understand it.
 

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