Correct use of is proportional to symbol (alpha)

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The discussion focuses on the correct use of the "is proportional to" symbol in the context of calculating gravitational acceleration on different planets. The user initially misapplies the proportionality concept by attempting to compare values without considering the gravitational constant. The correct approach involves using the formula g = GM/r², where G is a constant, to establish a relationship between gravitational accelerations on Earth and Planet X. It is clarified that proportionality should be expressed correctly, distinguishing between the "alpha" symbol and the proper proportionality symbol. Ultimately, the user seeks guidance on accurately calculating the astronaut's weight on Planet X using these principles.
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Correct use of "is proportional to" symbol (alpha)

Hello, I am facing a problem that can be solved quite easily using the proportional symbol ( I think ), so I would like to try to use it! Only problem is.. I don't know exactly how to use it correctly...

The question is :An astronaut weighs 882N on Earth, determing the weight of the astronaut on Planet X, which has a mass 95.3 times that of Earth and a radius 8.9 times that of Earth.

So, g=\frac{Gm}{r^{2}} and thus g\alpha\frac{m}{r^2}

So I wrote down
g\alpha\frac{m}{r^2}
g\alpha\frac{95.3}{79.21}

But of course this false... g is not proportional to 95.3/79.21.. lol. Can someone show me how to correctly show my work? Thanks. This would allow me to simply use this ratio to calculate his new weight.
 
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Remember that G is the gravitational constant, ie. it always takes the value 6.67ishe-11

This constant turns the proportionality into an equality.
 
Checkfate said:
Hello, I am facing a problem that can be solved quite easily using the proportional symbol ( I think ), so I would like to try to use it! Only problem is.. I don't know exactly how to use it correctly...

The question is :An astronaut weighs 882N on Earth, determing the weight of the astronaut on Planet X, which has a mass 95.3 times that of Earth and a radius 8.9 times that of Earth.

So, g=\frac{Gm}{r^{2}} and thus g\alpha\frac{m}{r^2}

So I wrote down
g\alpha\frac{m}{r^2}
g\alpha\frac{95.3}{79.21}

But of course this false... g is not proportional to 95.3/79.21.. lol. Can someone show me how to correctly show my work? Thanks. This would allow me to simply use this ratio to calculate his new weight.
Saying g \propto m/r^2 is equivalent to saying that g = Gm/r^2 where G is a constant (the proportionality constant) ie. g is a linear function of m and r2. If you want to perform mathematical operations you have to use the equality sign and the constant.

g_1 = \frac{GM_1}{r_1^2}

g_2 = \frac{GM_2}{r_2^2}

dividing, the constant falls out:

\frac{g_2}{g_1} = \frac{M_2}{M_1}\frac{r_1^2}{r_2^2}

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Checkfate said:
Hello, I am facing a problem that can be solved quite easily using the proportional symbol ( I think ), so I would like to try to use it! Only problem is.. I don't know exactly how to use it correctly...

The question is :An astronaut weighs 882N on Earth, determing the weight of the astronaut on Planet X, which has a mass 95.3 times that of Earth and a radius 8.9 times that of Earth.

So, g=\frac{Gm}{r^{2}} and thus g\alpha\frac{m}{r^2}

So I wrote down
g\alpha\frac{m}{r^2}
g\alpha\frac{95.3}{79.21}

But of course this false... g is not proportional to 95.3/79.21.. lol. Can someone show me how to correctly show my work? Thanks. This would allow me to simply use this ratio to calculate his new weight.
g is proportional to \frac{m}{r^2}
but when cramming in the values you did, you get a comparison to Earth's "g." Multiply (95.3/79.21) by 9.81, and you get the "g" of the other planet.
 
If you want to use the proportionality sign, then say

g_{e}\propto \frac{M_e}{r_e^2}[/itex]<br /> <br /> and<br /> <br /> g_{x}\propto \frac{M_x}{r_x^2}[/itex]&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; where g_{e/x} refers to Earth or planet x etc. Now you can say: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; \frac{g_x}{g_e}=\frac{M_xr_e^2}{r_x^2M_e^2}&lt;br /&gt; g_x}=g_e\frac{M_xr_e^2}{r_x^2M_e^2}.By the way, the &amp;quot;proprtional to&amp;quot; symbol isn&amp;#039;t alpha. In tex it&amp;#039;s &amp;quot;\propto&amp;quot;... here&amp;#039;s the difference:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; \alpha \ldots \propto&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; The first is alpha, the second is proptional to.
 
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