Centripetal Force/Changing direction on ice - Turn length

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The discussion focuses on calculating the smallest turn a person can make while running on ice, given a speed of 6 m/s and a coefficient of friction of 0.16. The net force and friction force equations are applied to determine the turning radius, which is found to be 23 meters. To find the length of the turn, the circumference of the circle is calculated, leading to a quarter of the circumference being approximately 36.25 meters. The final conclusion is that the smallest turn the boy can make is 36.25 meters. Understanding the movement as an arc rather than a simple turn is crucial for solving the problem.
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Homework Statement


I am running to school at 6m/s when I hit a patch of icy sidealk. The coefficient of friction between the ice and my shoes is 0.16. I wish to turn my 55kg frame to the left. What is the smallest turn I can make?

v = 6 m/s
μ = 0.16
m = 55 kg

Homework Equations


Fnet = mv^2/r
Ff = μFn
Fnet = ma

The Attempt at a Solution


Assume that up and left are positive.

Fnet = ma
Fg + Fn = ma
-539 + Fn = 0
Fn = 539

Ff = μFn
Ff = 0.16 (539)
Ff = 86.24

Fnet = mv^2/r
Ff = mv^2/r
86.24 = 55(6)^2/r
86.24 = 1980/r
r = 23 m

I'm not sure if that's the answer or what to do next, or even if what I did is the right method. The question is kind of confusing me because I don't fully understand how the person is moving.
 
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testme said:
r = 23 m

I'm not sure if that's the answer or what to do next, or even if what I did is the right method. The question is kind of confusing me because I don't fully understand how the person is moving.

You got the radius of the circle (correct) the boy can turn without slipping outwards. He wants to turn to the left, change direction by 90 degrees. Instead of just turning round his body, he makes the turn along an arc. I think the problem asks the length of the arc.

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So you mean like a quarter of the circumference?

C = 2∏r
C = 46∏
C = 145
C/4 = 36.25m

Therefore the smallest turn the boy can make is 36.25m?
 
testme said:
So you mean like a quarter of the circumference?

C = 2∏r
C = 46∏
C = 145
C/4 = 36.25m

Therefore the smallest turn the boy can make is 36.25m?

That is, (pi/2)*R. . Yes, I think, that was the question.

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Kindly see the attached pdf. My attempt to solve it, is in it. I'm wondering if my solution is right. My idea is this: At any point of time, the ball may be assumed to be at an incline which is at an angle of θ(kindly see both the pics in the pdf file). The value of θ will continuously change and so will the value of friction. I'm not able to figure out, why my solution is wrong, if it is wrong .
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