Fox, Sheep, Cabbage problem - revisited

  • Thread starter Thread starter BobG
  • Start date Start date
AI Thread Summary
The discussion centers around simplifying the classic fox, sheep, and cabbage problem by proposing a battery-operated computer that helps users avoid incorrect combinations when transporting these items across a river. The computer would feature four switches corresponding to the person, fox, sheep, and cabbage, with a light indicator signaling problematic configurations. A truth table outlines various scenarios, showing how Boolean logic can reduce potential problems to four logical combinations. The conversation also touches on the challenges of designing a counter that accurately sequences the necessary moves without triggering issues, suggesting that a tree-traversal approach might be more efficient. Participants explore various methods, including state diagrams and flip-flop configurations, to find an optimal solution. The discussion highlights the complexity of the problem while emphasizing the need for a practical computational aid.
BobG
Science Advisor
Messages
352
Reaction score
88
The fox, sheep, cabbage problem is too complicated of a task for a person to figure out. Someone should design a simple battery operated computer for this guy so he doesn't have to think.

Let the high from the battery equal the left side of the river and the low from the battery equal equal the right side of the river. The computer will have 4 switches (one each for the person, fox, sheep, and cabbage). The person can flip the switches to try out different combinations. A light will light up if the decision would be a bad one. In essence, you have a truth table

P S F C L
0 0 0 0 0 Every one is on the right side, person can control chaos
0 0 0 1 0 Cabbage is alone, person can keep fox from eating sheep
0 0 1 0 0 Fox is alone, person can keep sheep from eating cabbage
0 0 1 1 0 Fox doesn't eat cabbage, no problem
0 1 0 0 0 Sheep is alone, no problem
0 1 0 1 1 Now we have a problem - sheep can't be left alone with cabbage
0 1 1 0 1 Problem, fox will eat sheep on left side of river
0 1 1 1 1 Big problems, major chaos - who knows what will happen
1 0 0 0 1 Still big problems, just on right side of river instead of left
1 0 0 1 1 Fox will eat sheep on right side of river
1 0 1 0 1 Sheep will contentedly eat cabbage on right side of river
1 0 1 1 0 No problem, as long as sheep doesn't get lonely
1 1 0 0 0 Now nobody's lonely
1 1 0 1 0 Foxes don't get lonely
1 1 1 0 0 Neither does cabbage
1 1 1 1 0 Mission accomplished, everyone's on other side of river

The six possible problems can be reduced to four logical combinations via Boolean logic. Letting '!' represent 'not', the circuitry of the computer can be reduced to:

(P!)SC + (P!)SF + P(S!)(F!) + P(S!)F(C!)

Now the person can tell if a certain combination will cause him a problem. Unfortunately, this doesn't give the person a combination that will carry him from 0000 to 1111. A binary counter won't work - it will have some people swimming and sometimes will have no one bringing the boat back (plus it will count right through the problem). A Gray Code counter also has some problems - it only moves one person at a time, sometimes having the boat move the same direction two times in succession (plus it will count right through the problem).

How do you design a counter that will count the proper combinations in succession, avoiding situations which will light the light?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Foxes don't like cabbage ? That's just weird ! :eek:
 
Put in white, just in case ... but maybe irrelevant

hmm what are we exactly looking for?
0000->1100->0100->1110->0010->1011->0011->1111
is one possible sequence
one can simply draw a state diagram, assume to be working with JKFF, use kmaps and finish the problem ?
[/Color]

-- AI
 
Gokul43201 said:
Foxes don't like cabbage ? That's just weird ! :eek:

Foxes (though nominally carnivores) would probably eat cabage in a pinch.

BobG:
Do you care if the solution is optimal? Otherwise a tree-traversal would work.
 
NateTG said:
Foxes (though nominally carnivores) would probably eat cabage in a pinch.

BobG:
Do you care if the solution is optimal? Otherwise a tree-traversal would work.

It would probably be more optimal than mine, since I might have spent about 10 minutes on it. Mine was basically the same as TenaliRaman's, except I did the Boolean equations for the control gates driving the flip-flops (and I used D's instead of JK's).
 
Did you know that the JK stood for John Kerry ? :wink:
 
Just ONCE, I wanted to see a post titled Status Update that was not a blatant, annoying spam post by a new member. So here it is. Today was a good day here in Northern Wisconsin. Fall colors are here, no mosquitos, no deer flies, and mild temperature, so my morning run was unusually nice. Only two meetings today, and both went well. The deer that was road killed just down the road two weeks ago is now fully decomposed, so no more smell. Somebody has a spike buck skull for their...
Back
Top