Solve Node Analysis Problem with Ideal Opamp

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The discussion revolves around solving a node analysis problem involving an ideal op-amp circuit. The user initially presents three equations for nodes v1 and v2 but suspects errors in their formulation. A responder corrects the equations, emphasizing the ideal op-amp's virtual short circuit and providing revised equations for v1 and v2. The user acknowledges the mistake regarding resistor identification and expresses gratitude for the assistance, indicating they will revisit the equations to find a solution. The conversation highlights the importance of accurate equation formulation in circuit analysis.
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Hi, I was searching google for answers about my problem and stumbled upon this forum. So I'll post my problem here and hope that some friendly soul can help me :)

I need to do a node-analysis of the circuit that I've attached here. The opamp is ideal so Ri=inf and R0=0 and A=inf. I end up with 3 equations for the nodes v1,v2:
eq1: (1/(1/jwC1)+1/R1)v1 = Uin/(1/jwC1)
eq2: (1/R3 + 1/(1/jwC2))v2 = Av1/R3
eq3: Uout=Av2

I am pretty sure I've done wrong in the node analysis, but I am unable to find out what I've done wrong (or right ;)). The equations I get later by solving the equationsystems doesn't add up. Any input or help on this problem is greatly appreciated!
 

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You did it wrong. Equation 1 should be:
U_{in}\dot(j\omega C_1 + \frac{1}{R_1}) = V_1\dot\frac{1}{R_1})
or, in simpler form:
V_1 = U_in\dot\frac{R_1}{R_1+\frac{1}{j\omegaC_1}
Since the amplifier is ideal, there is a virtual short circuit between the + and - terminals and the output voltage is V_1
Then equation 2 will be:
V_2 = V_1\dot\frac{\frac{1}{j\omegaC_2}}{R_2+\frac{1}{j\omegaC_2}
and
U_{out} = V_2
 
You did it wrong. Equation 1 should be:
U_{in}\dot(j\omega C_1 + \frac{1}{R_1}) = V_1\dot\frac{1}{R_1}
or, in simpler form:
V_1 = U_in\dot\frac{R_1}{R_1+\frac{1}{j\omegaC_1}}
Since the amplifier is ideal, there is a virtual short circuit between the + and - terminals and the output voltage is V_1
Then equation 2 will be:
V_2 = V_1\dot\frac{\frac{1}{j\omegaC_2}}{R_2+\frac{1}{j\omegaC_2}}
and
U_{out} = V_2

Reposted because I was not able to edit
 
Still unable to write correctly the equations in LaTex I will write it in normal text.
Eq.1: V1 = Uin [R1/(R1+1/jwC1)]
Eq.2: V2 = V1 [(1/jwC2)/(R2+1/jwC2)]
 
Shouldnt it be R3 instead of R2 in your equations?
 
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svenneman said:
Shouldnt it be R3 instead of R2 in your equations?
Yes, my mistake.
 
oky, then it makes more sense :P

thanks for the help, I'll sit down with the new equations and see if I can get a result out of it :)
 
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