Relativity Question (Twin Paradox)

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The discussion revolves around the twin paradox in relativity, focusing on a scenario involving two rockets traveling between Earth and Canopus, which is 99 light years apart. The participant is attempting to calculate the times on various synchronized clocks during specific events, but is struggling to determine the times for clock 4 at event 1 and clock 6 at event 6. They have made progress using the equation t^2_E - x^2_E = t^2_R - x^2_R, but encountered issues leading to the square root of a negative number. The participant seeks assistance in identifying where their calculations went wrong and simplifying the problem. The inquiry highlights the complexities of time dilation and synchronization in relativistic scenarios.
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Hi all,

Most of you are probably familiar with the twin paradox of relativity, which is the basis of this problem. I think I understand it fairly well but am having trouble with one specific detail. Here is the setup:

Problem
We have two planets, the Earth and canopus, that are separated by a distance of 99 light years in the Earth frame. A rocket (R1) traveling from the Earth to canopus travels at such a speed that it will arrive at canopus in 101 years. Upon arriving at canopus, the occupant in the rocket will instantaneously jump from the first rocket to a second rocket (R2) traveling the same speed but now pointed towards the earth.

For the earth, there is a string a clocks that infinitely stretch out towards canopus (the positive direction) and away from the direction of canopus (the negative direction). These clocks are synchronized to the clock on earth. A similar set of clocks are attached to the rockets and are synchronized to the clock on the rocket.


There are six events that occur in the problem.

Event 1: R1 leaves earth
Event 2: R1 reaches canopus
Event 3: Rocket station S1 passes earth
(S1 is the station that reaches Earth at the same time that R1 reaches canopus in the R1 frame)
Event 4: R2 leaves canopus
Event 5: Rocket station S2 passes earth
(S2 is the station that reaches Earth at the same time that R2 leaves canopus in the R2 frame)


There are six clocks

Clock 1: on earth
Clock 2: on canopus
Clock 3: on R1
Clock 4: on S1
Clock 5: on R2
Clock 6: on S2


I am told to find the times of all six clocks at each of the six events in the Earth frame.


Attempted Solution
Well, I found the times of all the clocks of, except clock 4 at event 1 and clock 6 at event 6. If I can find out how to obtain the time from clock 4, I can probably find the time for clock 6 as well.

I started by using the equation t^2_E - x^2_E = t^2_R - x^2_R where "E" stands for Earth and "R" stands for Rocket. I am attempting to solve for t_E. t_R is equal to 0 since this is the reference event for the problem.

But before I could substitute numbers to this equation, I had to find the value of x_R at event 2 and x_E at event 3.

For x_R, I used the value found for t_R at event 2.

t^2_R = t^2_E - x^2_E

t^2_R = 101^2 - 99^2

t^2_R = 400

t_R = 20

Multiply this distance times the rocket speed (which is 99/101 = .98) to give us 19.6 years in distance between the rocket at canopus and the earth. It is also the distance between the S1 clock in event 3 as it passes

the earth. Back to our main equation, t^2_E - x^2_E = t^2_R - x^2_R, we now have the value of x_R (19.6)

For x_E, I used the value found for t_E at event 3.

t^2_E = t^2_R - x^2_R

t^2_E = 20^2 - 19.6^2

t^2_E = 15.84

t_R = 3.98


Finally substituting all of our values into t^2_E - x^2_E = t^2_R - x^2_R, I have t^2_E - 3.98^2 = 0 - 19.6^2. However, I end up getting the squareroot of a negative number. Can someone please show me where things went wrong?
 
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Did I not include enough info? :confused:
 
Please help! I have to turn this in tomorrow. :cry:
 
For a moment, forget about what I posted above and let's see if I can make this simpler.

A rocket is traveling from Earth to Canopus, which is 99 light years away. The rocket reaches canopus in 101 years (so v = 99/101 = .98). There is a clock attached to a rope that is 3.88 light years long (in the Earth frame) and this rope is attaced the the back of the rocket (basically, there is a clock travling the same velocity as the rocket but is 3.88 light years behind the rocket). When the rocket reaches Canopus, what does this clock read in the Earth frame?
 
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