What Angle Allows a Right Angle Ruler to Hang in Equilibrium?

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The discussion focuses on determining the angle at which a right angle ruler made of uniform sheet metal hangs in equilibrium. The user attempts to solve the problem by summing forces and torques, initially miscalculating the force balance. It is clarified that the force P should equal the total weight mg, leading to the equation .25cosQ = sinQ. The correct approach involves dividing both sides by cosQ to derive the tangent function, ultimately leading to the solution for angle Q. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurate algebraic manipulation in solving physics problems.
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Homework Statement



the right angle ruler shown in the figure hangs from a peg . it is made of unifrom sheet metal. let lambda equal the leiner dinsity. one arm is Lcm long and the other is 2L cm long. find the angle theta at which it will hang in equilibrium

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I believe ij ust sum the forces, that is the forces in the y direction equal zero as well as the torqs. i don't think i need the x right?

F(y) = 0 = P - .5mg - mg = P - .75mg

F(torque) = 0 = .5Amg - Bmg hwere A = .5LcosQ and B = LsinQ

F = 0 = .5(.5LcosQ)mg - (LsinQ)mg = .25cosQ - sinQ = 0

is this correct, how do i solve this
 

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you are on track, but you have the force P equal to .75mg, where instead, it must equal mg, where mg is the total weight of the right angled metal. It doesn't make much difference, though...note that sin theta/cos theta =tan theta, when you solve your equation for theta.
 
something is not right

.25cosQ = sinQ
cosQ = 4sinQ
0 = 4tanQ

Q = 0

what did i do wrong
 
joemama69 said:
something is not right

.25cosQ = sinQ
cosQ = 4sinQ
0 = 4tanQ

Q = 0

what did i do wrong
Your algebra.

if .25cosQ = sinQ, then divide both sides of the equation by cosQ, which yields

.25cosQ/cosQ = sinQ/cosQ, or
.25 = tanQ

Solve for the angle, Q.
 
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