Angular Momentum of Clay & Cylinder: Find Rotational Speed

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A wad of sticky clay is fired at a stationary solid cylinder, and the discussion revolves around calculating the angular speed of the cylinder upon impact using conservation of angular momentum. The initial angular momentum of the clay is expressed as r x mv, with the distance d from the center of the cylinder playing a crucial role in the calculations. Participants explore the relationship between the radius and the angle of impact, noting that the sine of the angle cancels out in the cross product. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly identifying the initial conditions and the final angular momentum of the system. Ultimately, the problem is resolved with the help of the forum members.
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A wad of sticky clay (mass m, velocity v), is fired at a solid cylinder (mass M, radius R). The cylinder is initially at rest and rotates on an axis through the center of mass. The line of motion of the projectile is perpendicular to the axis of rotation and at a distance d < R from the center.


Find the angular speed of the cylinder just as the clay hits the surface.

I am trying to use conservation of momentum to solve this.
we can say, i suppose, that :

L_{clay final}-L_{clay initial} = L_{cylinder final} [/itex]<br /> <br /> Now i have know idea what to substitute for these values. I know <br /> L= R x mv, or for the rotating cylinder L=Iw, but for the initial angular momentum of the clay, do i find R? Somehow, d ends up in the final answer. Can someone show me the correct way to set this one up.<br /> <br /> Thanks
 
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Yes,i assume that the law of conservation of angular momentum should be enough to do it.
1.What is the total angular momentum of the system at the initial moment of time??

Daniel.
 
"1.What is the total angular momentum of the system at the initial moment of time??"


It should just be the angular momentum of the clay, which would be
r x mv, (isnt that correct), but the radius r is what i do not know. I assume somehow that d factors in there somehow since there is a d in the final answer.
 
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wait i think i have something, the initial r is d/sin theta, and that sine of theta will cancel out with the sine of theta in the cross product. This might work.
but for the two final values i don't know.
 
Hey, i got the answer, thanks for you help though.
 
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